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I see that mostly as an argument for trying to bring the benefits of the Guix Build Coordinator to the substitutes served by ci.guix.gnu.org. Even with 3 machines for x86_64-linux (2.x given that bayfront is only lightly used), bayfront has pretty much caught up with ci.guix.gnu.org in terms of x86_64-linux substitutes, and I expect it to have a higher substitute availability percentage in the coming days, since it's still working through the backlog. Once it is doing better, at least for x86_64-linux substitutes, I see that as a strong argument to promote it to users (default config change, blog post, ...). 1: =E2=86=92 guix describe Generation 310 May 16 2021 09:06:12 (current) guix 7c4c781 repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git branch: master commit: 7c4c781aa40c42d4cd10b8d9482199f3db345e1b =E2=86=92 guix weather --substitute-urls=3D"https://bayfront.guix.gnu.org h= ttps://ci.guix.gnu.org" computing 17,423 package derivations for x86_64-linux... looking for 18,872 store items on https://bayfront.guix.gnu.org... https://bayfront.guix.gnu.org 91.6% substitutes available (17,293 out of 18,872) 37,146.8 MiB of nars (compressed) 143,978.2 MiB on disk (uncompressed) (continuous integration information unavailable) looking for 18,872 store items on https://ci.guix.gnu.org... https://ci.guix.gnu.org 92.1% substitutes available (17,389 out of 18,872) at least 139,781.5 MiB of nars (compressed) 35,184,372,238,367.3 MiB on disk (uncompressed) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKlBAEBCgCPFiEEPonu50WOcg2XVOCyXiijOwuE9XcFAmCjekJfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDNF ODlFRUU3NDU4RTcyMEQ5NzU0RTBCMjVFMjhBMzNCMEI4NEY1NzcRHG1haWxAY2Jh aW5lcy5uZXQACgkQXiijOwuE9XcCcQ//ZhrCb+xD50XlLgPJAi2FcUSL8Ntya1mb TZz+I1qcdT7dK62rdJZqxApqsml9l54s+zDnzJ484a1eim63ZKpzAOVHHUCKP1Jz EqEIRHZc3um0MSBsm55xCrWhkPye5l9eDEiqJhxVNlOlMlqmqkxBDbkXIjZF8IzN bfFeTs0Mysiq/0E5JmjXQaMzJ+0ZSigrieds9GxQBrQjOSEZTGcavgs7eua4BZve SfM4hWmvPMGUDMkhYRbUzagqGxgu9sfUiREjYsDwIB7/lciXCkR69JEEV1zg/ZN6 r9qG3RwSSu2QpeFaxcnsJs11PwePiuLSbq1y3KWTXj4qCdlvQTRLnDHqwpYY6XeQ X7mPMAs1r76Ta7Bzh9X45b1oqfRIdgZ6xtuTg2utiGSwLF9aozkDpO/1QyqOxmrX 1B8k0tiIac3+EJqSQdElewwrxN4BmBh/SjdnhVcHdN9ZkY4RAY7VBY2XxHRgJ467 UDUtdhVIXh/fLA35H50m9Dka0TyfWJM1tBWHnaLwjWLNlxm8Ao6q5obXpsbgxAAc LdTNvVomsBnOw6NJdaz/yMcXm1CPpJp15ZjNFweN3zXoz+Qnlk6MTMOarFKdRNqf tMREI54TBhpguxIE4iNcFyyliRuhmvqvKe9gewixwyYsjMEKrS4hZ+q5okTGqGli Y/cosLuWKYQ= =8F+X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--