From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id ADIrLwNNSmGSBQEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:22:11 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id 8JWaKgNNSmGGcQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 21:22:11 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32FDD8F8B for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:22:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:36064 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mSnDO-0001dW-A7 for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 17:22:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mSnDB-0001d6-Qz for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 17:21:57 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40662) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mSnDB-0001lD-Fr; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 17:21:57 -0400 Received: from [109.110.20.156] (port=47552 helo=meije) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mSnDA-0005i8-Vj; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 17:21:57 -0400 From: Mathieu Othacehe To: Christopher Baines Subject: Re: OBS substitutes References: <86y27rc4lf.fsf@gmail.com> <877df9y6om.fsf@cbaines.net> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 21:21:54 +0000 In-Reply-To: <877df9y6om.fsf@cbaines.net> (Christopher Baines's message of "Tue, 21 Sep 2021 22:08:33 +0100") Message-ID: <87r1dh4ob1.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1632259331; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=MVAwyOJRmRyp3VlwEEIMnhInrcqslZXBnXASkfT2IdM=; b=JqbYS9qebwaknnkJoS43YeiTWlFEv0C/UsljsW1knhTrtyuohOfNNPxnoZxHd4cBFWhHF5 7HIenB+kQYuXqkbRxPktsfgHppdYcRJNm9XlDiou0eK0TMYcNMJpiDeeOS6vZTy/Ommlan ErA7SmarNDBl81qIMmTD8KCJZPTPbuJH1qojM1Vt66z5p8zN3ZWQsdF7at++eBjdHs8qWC CqYIkkKdVeyMvlp1fvtQz/a4i4ulAizeAR4a/6UL7mT8k5M70NcwwiFRfIKaoVnfIVsTue Doa2It3wTMdY4RDeDlz/n/LtWsXvwbmC4dwekH0HvLrO9VO9SR5UnLckVyB8/w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1632259331; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=eDIik1InSye/wauKWFWE2mrEVyAHUrBhYy7iWB+oI+CWnKm9PhH7Dy06WA+cBuXALoIn8i jGlVdhB709LcNS4doypc36Fy58ArJtQQYVbviqJs5kGrsJI/tjb16BQVwOGDhSqphqvVEz Xf3SC2d8GksXlc+XoJ6DXpADRKlg1z/dY8o1S5nS59KY8oYhxGuAgaASKakqrfP6nEVy6i sgjpxsJyriKcRO8z/U/ooZvCowtwJDSlwSXgq1ae7Ex8mDHDMhtgMJo2AT2tuwVuAWo3Xi J0svsWWB2f6Mvd5cuCLCS1K+2MpHxToonpdtQrHAZCRB2UsFAAWrw5kvmXWwqw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.89 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 32FDD8F8B X-Spam-Score: -2.89 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 7HouzWOBqd5L Hello Chris, > On Guix Systems, if the substitute keys are left as the default, for > recent revisions of Guix, the bordeaux.guix.gnu.org signing key will be > included in the ACL by default. With Guix on foreign distributions, it > needs adding manually. > > I think there's some room for improvement in the UI/UX here, in terms of > telling users that there are substitutes available, if they trust a > specific key (all the relevant information is in the narinfo). I totally agree here, as I also faced this issue several times. When fetching a narinfo which is signed with a key that's not in the ACL, we should probably issue a warning. Mathieu