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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, =?utf-8?Q?S=C5=82awomir?= Lach Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1643237201; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=aXP9Ti8JCUxd/DyyO9bLqkJKsNvCFO9iOwibRHBqJKA=; b=dEB1x45asLuJcpFa3x3D1ywHljKYNockqBTNIcK1yxiwtcjLLSznvzAkV5HMhaIKe8DYid 5HVuxpEQO0YpXT+LI0Dvh+XUMNpQbsyHmnv1Bl1k/FHJLF1Zy+UcXBj+wXyUcMeS0LO2F2 TINoiKTjLTFYkh8fpeixKQRC5hTRN2l1GEnpAlfK9B+8nxCyN5dM8iZnQzGceXMnQSD/Gs P49Xg+anqNJnZy2LcfEBmIEK8A8Uq00+XLd8adyqvZ9jyzS6bKIiVRb2psspBAXI8sgP08 fVw2ONe3m1brBCHMO8HcBAq2sNf4+5GXYEI8Euxnlhtzg7XodZoeFU3h81sHaA== ARC-Seal: i=2; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1643237201; a=rsa-sha256; cv=fail; b=HH3pPZsMWcK0b++RDjKvYHS53SZ6N1468cGl6fvLME8j/ks4aGnfjLwurQ6PMoIbvJRN0m PT4KoHsqTTvdEcW3kMP3sHirzUa3PCoSjX2dyHjL7cBmoXWjt71OYKHQ2HHV0MknJEu5aU qCEyoMT7Dd4h2ZullkcJrOqmVLSNyurcxOKaeHu0fLv/fHevmGuwa8Mf66dgInac7TiaKf kTS3pNHbRy8iIFrlamG3gXQ6SqUvOv9B1ZDelavC3OjPmwHIOFy78a/ReHKtkDrWzWCTPP UcihSlAy8O+fAyLqE3GY9ry6sizknJvm5NWZYCHe6X1rsWbR8wnCKJsOQkLUaw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=elephly.net header.s=zoho header.b=GO37BiBB; arc=reject ("signature check failed: fail, {[1] = sig:zohomail.com:reject}"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.93 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=elephly.net header.s=zoho header.b=GO37BiBB; arc=reject ("signature check failed: fail, {[1] = sig:zohomail.com:reject}"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 18C8716C39 X-Spam-Score: -1.93 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: c4bqaNIMH1Fm Yasuaki Kudo writes: > Does Guix really run out of the box in Debian? > > I have never tried it but my friend Debian expert friend keeps telling me= that: > > * Just apt-get installing Guix doesn't work How does =E2=80=9Capt install guix=E2=80=9D not work? There=E2=80=99s an o= lder version of Guix in Debian. After installing it =E2=80=9Cguix pull=E2=80=9D should get the = latest version and it all works. There=E2=80=99s also an installer script at https://guix.gnu.org/install.sh which skips the detour through apt and gets you the latest release directly. > * and his really big complaint is evidently he creates "virtual > environments" (short of full-on VMware, I imagine it is an assortment > of Linux native tricks that are wrapped by tools like Docker) for > every OS he tries but > * Evidently the same tricks don't work with Guix Is this not *exactly* what =E2=80=9Cguix shell=E2=80=9D (formerly =E2=80=9C= guix enviromnent=E2=80=9D) does? =E2=80=9Cguix shell -C=E2=80=9D enters a container, even, using the = same Linux namespace mechanism that Docker wraps. > * He does not want to try full blown Guix OS without first testing it in = above ways Guix can comfortably be used outside of Guix System. And you can *still* use most =E2=80=9Cguix system=E2=80=9D commands, e.g. to build cont= ainers or virtual machines. --=20 Ricardo