Hi, Last week was quite challenging and frustraiting, culminated by sleepless nights in the weekend. Among other things at least two serivces was broken, which are cups-service-type and swaylock with screen-locker-service-type. Both issues are not easy troubleshootable due to nature of PAM. cups-service-type: core-updates merging commit 3bacd3c76a added linux-pam to cups package. Resulting in https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/63198. While switching cups-service-type's default package from cups to cups-minimal solves authentication issue, it however broke ipptool printer finder tool. When PAM support is compiled in, it does not work without proper PAM entry. While workaround could be as simple as: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- +(simple-service + 'cups-pam-service + pam-root-service-type + (list (unix-pam-service "cups" #:allow-empty-passwords? #f))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Total solution could be: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/63198#4 swaylock with screen-locker-service-type: commit 146bae3979 added linux-pam to swaylock package. Resulting in https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/63357#2. While workaround could be as simple as: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- -(service screen-locker-service-type - (screen-locker-configuration - "swaylock" (file-append swaylock "/bin/swaylock") #f))))) +(simple-service + 'cups-pam-service + pam-root-service-type + (list (unix-pam-service "cups" #:allow-empty-passwords? #f))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Detailed explanation with total solution is provided in https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/63652. The following coming afterwards to my mind: GUIX at first is package manager, so there are a lot of them, but of two types: - BOUND - ones referenced from (gnu system) (gnu services) - FREE-STANDING - ones not referenced Then for BOUND packages, changing their behavior requires more careful handling and probably such change is always news worthy. And for FREE-STANDING packages, changing their behavior is totaly up to maintainers of packages and their users, not much could be done here. Having said that, we could go further with something like: guix package --list-available-bound[=...] This would be different from things likes "installed" or illustrated on the graph of running system. The point here is to know the packages that are referenced/used by GUIX it self, not only as package manager. When that available, careful handling and news worthines could be automated probably. muradm