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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AA1936EF00 X-Migadu-Spam: Yes X-Migadu-Scanner: mx0.migadu.com X-Spam: Yes X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 6.00 X-Spam-Score: 6.00 X-TUID: y4XwS8Vkl4nH Hi all, On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 10:07 AM, Simon Tournier wrote: > Hi Tobias, > > On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 at 22:11, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote: > >> However, merely documenting something is not enough when we have the >> chance to fix misleading naming, as we do here. It would be nice to >> have, but orthogonal. > > I would not say it is orthogonal because renaming would not have been > enough, at least for me, in order to get the difference with =E2=80=99inh= erit=E2=80=99. > > For sure, it is a real trap. :-) For instance, > > $ git log --grep=3D'package/inherit' --oneline | grep use > 5f83dd03a2 gnu: kodi/wayland: Do not use package/inherit. > 6ecf88a6a1 gnu: poppler-next: Don't use 'package/inherit'. > 5a5b729d66 gnu: abseil-cpp: Don't use 'package/inherit'. > dbcf2b61b1 gnu: Fix erroneous uses of 'package/inherit'. > 2f97a666a5 gnu: python-urllib3: Don't use 'package/inherit' on replac= ement package. > 4163b6d855 gnu: avahi: Don't use package/inherit. > > and in the light of this discussion, 5f83dd03a2 seems incorrect, no? > > Well, I agree that naming is important and probably the most difficult > task. :-) > > Do we go for renaming + deprecated? Then do we apply the rename to all > occurrences in Guix? > > Cheers, > simon I know, reviving an old thread but I assume this wasn't resolved? Throw my vote for the more explicit renaming with better doc/examples, as one who never remembers the difference either. John