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In-Reply-To: <87ttjpfo9s.fsf@gmail.com> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Thu, 25 Apr 2024 11:35:59 -0400") References: <874jciuxqq.fsf@gmail.com> <87y1942me8.fsf@lassieur.org> <87ttjpfo9s.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 00:42:38 +0200 Message-ID: <87r0etrrmp.fsf@lassieur.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=103.168.172.149; envelope-from=clement@lassieur.org; helo=fout6-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.89 X-Spam-Score: -5.89 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 412A160B62 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: D8YNiheaX78j Hello! On Thu, Apr 25 2024, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Cl=C3=A9ment Lassieur writes: > >> On Wed, Apr 03 2024, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: >> >>> It's been Guix policy to let people choose whether to install or not TLS >>> root certificates and which one to their machine. While I applaud the >>> idea to have the users make a conscious decision about it, in practice I >>> suppose very few of us choose to *not* install any as that basically >>> breaks using web browsers, especially ones like IceCat which (by >>> default) ensures HTTPS is used on every page. >> >> I'd be surprised Icecat breaks from this as it uses its own cert >> database and allows HTTP when HTTPS doesn't work. > > I didn't know Icecat had its own cert database. > > About allowing HTTP, it can access pages using it, but not without going > through a "Continue despite security risks" dialog, and perhaps turning > off the HTTPS everywhere add-on for the page, which is installed by > default. Indeed! (Well it's not an add-on anymore, but a Firefox native mode called HTTPS-only.) https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/https-only-prefs Cheers, Cl=C3=A9ment