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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Guix size reduction work group
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 15:15:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pnel2orv.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878sla1t68.fsf@nckx> (Tobias Geerinckx-Rice's message of "Mon, 10 Feb 2020 14:13:51 +0100")

Hi,

Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès 写道:
>> Nope (‘inherit’ is purely syntactic, it doesn’t “live on” at run
>> time.)
>> What would it buy you, though?
>
> In addition to what Gábor mentioned, ‘guix refresh -l’ rebuild numbers
> can be dangerously misleading when inheritance is involved.
>
> Would this not be useful information to record?  When I was new here I
> played around with doing just that but my Guile-foo was too weak.

For this specific use case, I agree it would be useful info.

For the more general record use case, I’m skeptical because:

  1. (foo (inherit (foo (a 1)))) would no longer be equal? to
     (foo (a 1)), which makes little sense from a programming viewpoint.

  2. The whole inheritance chain would be kept in memory, when in fact
     ‘inherit’ is nothing more than syntactic sugar to copy a record.

Maybe we could go fancy and augment ‘define-record-type*’ such that one
can ask for “inheritance reification”, but #2 sounds like that could
quickly make it impractical.

Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-11 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-04 15:57 Guix size reduction work group Pierre Neidhardt
2020-02-04 16:22 ` zimoun
2020-02-04 17:59   ` Julien Lepiller
2020-02-05 15:18 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-05 16:11   ` zimoun
2020-02-07 21:35     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-07 22:31       ` Gábor Boskovits
2020-02-08 13:40         ` zimoun
2020-02-10 13:13       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2020-02-11 14:15         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2020-02-08 16:43   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-02-09 23:45     ` zimoun
2020-02-10  8:09       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-02-10  8:46         ` Christopher Baines
2020-02-11 14:17           ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-10 10:30         ` zimoun
2020-02-10 12:33         ` Julien Lepiller
2020-02-11 14:20     ` Ludovic Courtès

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