From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id KKKKAiLhyl4iEAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 24 May 2020 21:03:30 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id 8PhuOSHhyl5uKAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 24 May 2020 21:03:29 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B9ED9400C3 for ; Sun, 24 May 2020 21:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:38940 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jcxmK-0001zi-JA for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 24 May 2020 17:03:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45800) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jcxmC-0001yy-1Q for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 May 2020 17:03:20 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37589) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jcxmB-0006oF-Ff; Sun, 24 May 2020 17:03:19 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=54930 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jcxm7-00032j-3I; Sun, 24 May 2020 17:03:18 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Efraim Flashner Subject: Re: MIPS support References: <87blo1ydsf.fsf@cbaines.net> <20200408220745.GA18252@jasmine.lan> <87sggdf7qm.fsf@gnu.org> <20200506182327.GA27121@jasmine.lan> <87y2pqky7r.fsf@gnu.org> <20200518070122.GE18220@E5400> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 6 Prairial an 228 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 23:03:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20200518070122.GE18220@E5400> (Efraim Flashner's message of "Mon, 18 May 2020 10:01:22 +0300") Message-ID: <87pnatyrji.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.01 X-TUID: dRUrunl3Y09C Hey! Efraim Flashner skribis: > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 12:12:24AM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> Leo Famulari skribis: >>=20 >> > On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 06:27:31PM +0200, Vincent Legoll wrote: >> >> From the manual or from the CI, to let the build farm do more useful = things >> >> I'm not against, but is it really making maintenance difficult by sti= ll being in >> >> the codebase ? >> > >> > It's not really a maintenance burden currently since we don't actually >> > build or maintain the Guix on MIPS at all. >> > >> > I think this discussion is evidence that people find the situation a b= it >> > confusing. When I am looking into a project, I find it demotivating to >> > read documentation about features that may or may not work =E2=80=94 i= t's best >> > when the documentation accurately reflects what the software can do. >>=20 >> Right, that was my point: let=E2=80=99s remove mentions of MIPS from the= manual >> and from =E2=80=98configure.ac=E2=80=99 so people have the right expecta= tions. >>=20 >> Thoughts? > > So change it so that mips needs '--with-courage' but not remove the > bootstrap binaries from the code? Yes. (The code has references to those binaries but it no longer has the binaries themselves.) > Do we want to fully remove the mention of mips as a supported platform > or change it to "in the past we had an active mips64el port which is > in need of more attention to bring it back to a fully supported > platform. Help wanted!" Do we really want to call for help in this area? To me, we just remove it, and if there=E2=80=99s interest again in this architecture, people might happily find that part of the work has already been done. Would you like to send a patch? Ludo=E2=80=99.