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References: <863630u6ap.fsf@gmail.com> <20201005101836.6qpcozxccisdf7yy@pelzflorian.localdomain> <8EFC55BC-8EE9-4A35-8E2E-B8BBA88B27EC@lepiller.eu> <87r1qcye9p.fsf@gnu.org> <20201006065939.GB21174@E5400> <87imbn6dgu.fsf@gnu.org> <20201006072616.GD21174@E5400> <87lfgj4win.fsf@gnu.org> <875z7fu0mq.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20201013150721.GB1145@E5400> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 22 =?utf-8?Q?Vend=C3=A9miaire?= an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:25:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20201013150721.GB1145@E5400> (Efraim Flashner's message of "Tue, 13 Oct 2020 18:07:21 +0300") Message-ID: <87pn5lg6n2.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel , Mathieu Othacehe Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.51 X-TUID: MuzDOy7LuQBj Efraim Flashner skribis: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 01:47:25PM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> Mathieu Othacehe skribis: >>=20 >> >> I'm actually not really sure how one would use the installer on one of >> >> the boards. I think the bare-bones disk-images would be best; just >> >> download it and flash it onto the board or an SD card and edit >> >> /etc/config.scm to add your user and services. Or to boot up into the >> >> installer and overwrite itself. >> > >> > The CI is already building substitutes for two images >> > (hurd-barebones-qcow2-image and pine64-barebones-raw-image). We could >> > maybe release 1.2 version of those images. >>=20 >> Keep in mind that images use space at ftp.gnu.org and also take time to >> build (having CI up-to-date helps with that, but it doesn=E2=80=99t not >> eliminate build times due to the =E2=80=98update-guix-package=E2=80=99 d= ance that takes >> place during =E2=80=9Cmake release=E2=80=9D.) > > We could also list out the commands for building the image and have > "community images" built and tested by people who actually have the > boards. Yeah, though =E2=80=9Ccommunity images=E2=80=9D could rhyme with =E2=80=9Cwe=E2=80=99re-not-sure-what=E2=80=99s-inside images=E2=80=9D. :-) >> Likewise, if we ship more images, we should update the =E2=80=9CSystem >> Installation=E2=80=9D section accordingly and be clear about what users = can >> expect. > > My slightly more featureful pine64plus image I built for myself came out > to 1.5 GiB and 291 MiB with bzip2. I don't know how much space the other > images or x86* images are. Cool. > We could also build and test them on a different schedule and upload > them at a later date as they're shown to be working. Hmm, tricky, security-wise. Anyway, let=E2=80=99s work on that for 1.3! Ludo=E2=80=99.