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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1624404224; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=a+L3CRkjFsCNuoMYAE846TxYvkBFoU/0PNoTbHSjWUY=; b=JtTrIDB+drgIymv8NtCw3Zrla35I4E30xeeDM8yNYdJsC72h7fqUfmNN7CI6zjLhyKLwa0 IOn2p9VrteWicohvvRrY00nB0fP8cvMRSpmcOqEW/wkLPRAw4gQd3O/nEaKNZGkQ9Pu49h 2Q/CYhPDpCqFawjWFqmjLpY03FXPEu/NAeIcY/Y21QmahgcCMlywDOJtItYvIJv7hCXJJM q6mgjwDFJrQi+HDAzJ9pyu8AgiaH28jcbtwmlYOpKbbLOevYA2YVnrb3VvlSnYiRVhdLcH uVOpL7FfrKGhA7LLuTHsb+kiz7u3c89GVWBLZUtfQC6UJpXcPuXX7WN0JrCVMw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1624404224; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=gKNgEQ4V99MYopwB4+Onn0RA8Gdq9J9zJ7FHbXNu6EoIHmXTWAztNSx3GBZCf7VI99ThVT fCcEEcp7y1yI1Pw0Nwdmcs2Rtf7drEkK6K+dW5dR9DWHtTYdCLkhgBz30T0JJRtkRLoesy fuURp/xRHeaFTdZ01U8e0y67g+5iPpx+O8yJ3hWv6nM8CqP4wIFTIB33CkRYlkHleIFHSr oqfXSXi8opxjacuigp87Lr+flfkHJQTSqzc60c/cTTUaKe43AtMM2Om1jLZclZqcnAZV+L CK/b8PCwyF19n85sulLbHj1x3s1Q2ZgBVKpYLXbkrXiVUsIoruZ1aOhh7TcPhA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=aN6joivO; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=aN6joivO; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A76292F8CD X-Spam-Score: -3.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: wR7z8PRhCezO Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hi! > > Tobias Geerinckx-Rice skribis: > >> Christopher Baines =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >>> Would trying to acquire a 2U rack mount server, and host it in a >>> proper >>> data centre be feasible? Because of both electricity usage and heat >>> generation, it's going to be more difficult to host residentially I >>> think. >> >> I thought Bayfront was hosted here[0], but we still pay =E2=82=AC75 inst= ead of >> the =E2=82=AC100 mentioned. Perhaps Andreas has an understanding with t= hem or >> was grandfathered in? > > Yes, we could do the same. > > Does anyone have cheaper (or gratis? :-)) hosting options in mind? Apologies if this is a silly/slighty off topic idea, but I thought I would at least mention it... I just bought a $250 refurbished Dell Optiplex 7020. 30 GB Ram. (Intel says max Ram is 16GB...the RAM upgrader (crucial) says max ram is 30GB). 3 TB HDD. 4th generation Intel CPU. I'm planning on having a simple server at home. My ISP will let me run my own server. I'm not certain how good my internet connection will be, but I would be interested in hosting a substitute server, though I would guess that very quickly the cost of hosting it would get pretty expensive...Just a thought. A $250 desktop machine is fairly inexpensive. :) Also, I just heard from Luke Leighton (from E0MA68 and the upcoming libreGPU), that you could buy a raptor computer with 1TB of RAM for about $40,000. :) > > Ludo=E2=80=99. > -- Joshua Branson (joshuaBPMan in #guix) Sent from Emacs and Gnus https://gnucode.me https://video.hardlimit.com/accounts/joshua_branson/video-channels https://propernaming.org "You can have whatever you want, as long as you help enough other people get what they want." - Zig Ziglar