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From: Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret.xyz>
To: Suhail <suhail@bayesians.ca>
Cc: Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>,
	Suhail <suhail@bayesians.ca>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Guix Days: Patch flow discussion
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2024 14:41:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87plx8fl2a.fsf@jpoiret.xyz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ttmlicsb.fsf@>

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Hi Sunhail,

> Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret.xyz> writes:
>
>> One thing I would like to get rid of though is debbugs.  It causes a
>> lot of pain for everyone, eg. when sending patchsets, it completely
>> breaks modern email because it insists on rewriting DMARC-protected
>> headers, thus needing to also rewrite "From:" to avoid DMARC errors.
>
> Thank you for sharing (what seems to be) a technical limitation of
> Debbugs.  Could you please explain what the consequences of the above
> are?  Specifically, how does the rewriting of above headers affect the
> contributors' workflow?

Every reply to one of your mails ends up creating a new thread in my
mail client, because the In-Reply-To chain ends up being broken. 

>> b4/lei is a nice example (we already have yhetil.org as a back-end,
>> but maybe a more blessed one would be better) of a tool that lets you
>> completely automate applying a patchset to a branch.
>>
>> patchwork is a nice tool to gather up and track patchsets, with status
>> indicators like "under review", "accepted", etc.  Chris already
>> deploys one as part of QA, more integration with it would be nice.
>
> It seems (based on above) that "patchwork" can co-exist with debbugs.
> Is that also the case with b4/lei?  Specifically, are the
> users/reviewers able to benefit from using the above tools at present?
> Or are there some reasons (over and above their lack of familiarity with
> the above tools) that would prevent them from doing so?

They both can co-exist with debbugs, and for now the patchwork instance
of QA is not usable for status tracking (because it is not meant to be
used as such for now).  One can already use both of them, but using both
supercedes debbugs, and gets rid of its limitations.  I've been using
b4/lei with the yhetil public-inbox instance, with piem.el as an
interface, and it's really useful.  With a properly configured b4, one
could simply run `b4 shazam some-msg-id` and it would automatically
apply the corresponding patchset.

And before you ask why I'm so intent on getting rid of Debbugs, I
believe that mailing lists should be just that, mailing lists.
Anything that tries to rewrite incoming mail is asking for trouble
nowadays.

Best,
-- 
Josselin Poiret

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-07 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-06 20:00 Guix Days: Patch flow discussion Suhail
2024-02-07 13:41 ` Josselin Poiret [this message]
2024-02-07 13:46   ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-11 17:24     ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-02-22  5:42       ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-11 20:04     ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-11 20:21       ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-11 20:39         ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-11 22:08           ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-12 10:35       ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-12 11:19         ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-12 15:57         ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-13  9:31           ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-13 14:30             ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-14  9:21               ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-07 14:30   ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-07 20:18   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-02-08  2:39     ` Kyle Meyer
2024-02-11 16:38       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-02-14 15:48         ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-15 11:07           ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-15 12:45             ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-15 11:45           ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-15 11:51             ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-15 15:32               ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-15 17:19                 ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-16 14:27               ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-02-15 13:06             ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-15 17:24               ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-15 18:40                 ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-15 22:08                   ` Clément Lassieur
2024-03-01 22:04                   ` Attila Lendvai
2024-02-16 14:25           ` Maxim Cournoyer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-02-18  2:31 Suhail
     [not found] <35786.5440238797$1707248619@news.gmane.org>
2024-02-16 10:56 ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-16 11:03   ` Andreas Enge
2024-02-16 11:28     ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-16 12:06       ` Christopher Baines
2024-02-06 21:01 Suhail
2024-02-06 19:47 Suhail
2024-02-06 19:42 Suhail
2024-02-05 21:45 Suhail
     [not found] <65c12e7e.0c0a0220.d7729.823cSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-02-05 19:52 ` Felix Lechner via
2024-02-05 19:33 Andy Tai
2024-02-05 20:50 ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-06  7:58   ` Andy Tai
2024-02-05 18:51 Suhail
2024-02-06 16:51 ` Steve George
2024-02-05 18:44 Suhail
2024-02-05 19:59 ` Hartmut Goebel
2024-02-06 11:14   ` Josselin Poiret
     [not found] <34679.2393991322$1707153777@news.gmane.org>
2024-02-05 17:36 ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-05 17:21 Suhail
2024-02-05 17:25 ` Vivien Kraus
2024-02-06 11:27 ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-05  9:39 Steve George
2024-02-05 14:07 ` Leo Famulari
2024-02-05 15:00   ` Tomas Volf
2024-02-05 22:08     ` Wilko Meyer
2024-02-06 11:49       ` Tomas Volf
2024-02-06 12:09         ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-06 12:53           ` Tomas Volf
2024-02-05 21:57   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 15:57 ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-05 17:10   ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-02-05 17:28     ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-05 18:27       ` Felix Lechner via
2024-02-05 18:50         ` Clément Lassieur
2024-02-05 22:10   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 18:07 ` Hartmut Goebel
2024-02-05 22:29   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:31   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:32   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:32   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:33   ` Steve George
2024-02-05 22:50   ` Steve George
2024-02-06 13:27 ` Edouard Klein
2024-02-06 13:39   ` Steve George
2024-02-08 19:56     ` Skyler Ferris
2024-02-09 16:35       ` Edouard Klein
2024-02-09 16:46         ` Andreas Enge
2024-02-11 10:03         ` Steve George
2024-02-14 21:40 ` Simon Tournier
2024-02-28 17:51   ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-02-28 19:21     ` Matt
2024-02-29 15:41       ` Daniel Littlewood
2024-02-29 18:09         ` Andreas Enge

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