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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>, guix-devel@gnu.org, guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: guix is the guildhall that we always wanted!
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 23:24:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o9x0uag9.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a88kanjq.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:01:45 -0400")

Hello!

Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:

> Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com> writes:
>
>> So!  My proposal for this new "guildhall" would be:
>>
>>     1. a web service
>>
>>     2. on which users registers projects
>>
>>     3. a project is a name + a git repository with a /package.scm file
>>
>>     4. the package.scm contains Guix package definitions for that project
>
> We need to keep all Guix package definitions within Guix itself, for the
> same reason that Linux (the kernel) developers insist on keeping all
> device drivers within a single monolithic tree.  If we start encouraging
> a decentralized approach, that would result in strong pressure on us to
> freeze our API, which includes even such details as which module each
> package is exported from.  This would drastically reduce the freedom
> Guix has to evolve the way its packages are specified.

I think having repos maintained elsewhere is OKish, but it’s true that
it requires people who maintain those repos to follow closely what’s
going on in Guix proper because we’re not guaranteeing API stability.

There’s a couple of ways to mitigate potential API instability: using
‘specification->package’ instead of referring to packages by variable
name, and using (guix) and (gnu) instead of more specific modules.

So I think having an external repo for guildhall would be possible, but
we need to make sure the connection to Guix APIs is loose enough.

Also, guildhall would be a privileged “customer” I suppose.  :-)

Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-16 22:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-16 18:25 guix is the guildhall that we always wanted! Andy Wingo
2017-03-16 19:26 ` Amirouche Boubekki
2017-03-17  8:23   ` Andy Wingo
2017-03-18  0:10     ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2017-03-16 22:01 ` Mark H Weaver
2017-03-16 22:24   ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2017-03-17  9:01     ` Florian Paul Schmidt
2017-03-17  9:45       ` Andy Wingo
2017-03-17 11:24       ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-17  6:51   ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-03-17  8:30   ` Andy Wingo
2017-03-17 13:54     ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-03-17 14:26       ` Andy Wingo
2017-03-18 14:00         ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-17 11:30 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-17 12:32   ` Andy Wingo
2017-03-17 17:39     ` Pjotr Prins
2017-03-17 18:16       ` Mike Gran
2017-03-17 13:22   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-18 14:04     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-18 14:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-19 15:57         ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-19 16:22           ` Eli Zaretskii

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