From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>
To: guix-devel@gnu.org, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Parameterized packages
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 17:17:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o945vze5.fsf@nckx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87woitz1xx.fsf@gnu.org>
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Ludo',
Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> While thinking about <https://issues.guix.info/issue/35671> and
> looking
> for ways to allow users to install just the locales they need
> right from
> ‘guix package’, I realized that “parameterized packages” are a
> low-hanging fruit
Wow. Unexpected turn…
I'm still thinking about this, so all this is just me doing it out
loud:
> (package
> (inherit glibc-utf8-locales)
> (properties `((locales . ("zh_CN.utf8")))))
>
> and tadaam! we have a parameterized package.
>
> There’s a couple of gotchas:
>
> • We’d need to store more info in manifest entries so that
> transformation options are preserved upon ‘guix upgrade’.
>
> • We might need to expose the package parameters somehow, so
> that if
> one types ‘--with-argument=foobar=baz’, they get a correct
> error
> message saying that “foobar” is not a known parameter.
Interesting idea to piggy-back on the properties field, and it
might save some code (at least initially), but I don't see the
overlap here.
None of the current properties (superseded, upstream-name,
*-variant, cpe-name, hidden?) make much sense to expose in this
way; they're semimmutable facts about the package.
While a dedicated field can provide richer metadata, such as
description, basic ‘types’ & sane/permitted values, to be used by
the UI.
Looking at Exherbo/ntoo, this will inevitably lead to factoring
out very common option metadata so one doesn't have to keep
writing ‘x11 bool "Add support for the X Window System"’ in
every. single. package.
Then come the people asking how to set CFLAGS for all packages and
you'll know you've made it.
> • We might want to make the CLI option less verbose too, but
> how?
Possibly relevant: do you see package options¹ being added to
package specifications? That seems to be the classical approach.
Kind regards,
T G-R
[1]: I use the term ‘option’ because it's what my last FHS
distribution called them, and it was a good distribution, and
because ‘arguments’ is already an unrelated field in package
expressions, and flags are boolean, but substitute whatever name
you prefer.
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-14 11:54 Parameterized packages Ludovic Courtès
2019-05-14 15:17 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice [this message]
2019-05-17 14:23 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-05-17 18:15 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-07-19 5:41 ` Chris Marusich
2019-07-19 20:29 ` ison
2020-01-02 19:23 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-09 11:10 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-09 23:13 ` Marius Bakke
2020-01-10 12:29 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-10 16:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-11 11:31 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 15:05 ` zimoun
2020-01-15 9:40 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 11:30 ` zimoun
2020-01-15 11:51 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 13:54 ` zimoun
2020-01-16 19:06 ` ison
2020-01-16 20:55 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-17 16:34 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-17 9:15 ` L p R n d n
2020-01-17 16:46 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-17 15:53 ` zimoun
2020-01-17 16:56 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 14:34 ` zimoun
2020-01-21 10:56 ` Build systems and implicit inputs Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-21 12:24 ` zimoun
2020-01-21 13:07 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-21 18:02 ` zimoun
2020-01-19 20:34 ` Parameterized packages Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-20 9:08 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 14:50 ` zimoun
2020-01-20 18:57 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 19:07 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 22:57 ` ison
2020-01-21 10:09 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-21 10:49 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-21 12:15 ` zimoun
2020-01-21 13:13 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-21 19:04 ` zimoun
2020-01-22 9:54 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-22 12:23 ` zimoun
2020-01-24 21:56 ` ison
2020-01-26 19:35 ` zimoun
2020-01-27 10:13 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-27 11:23 ` zimoun
2020-01-27 11:50 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-27 12:34 ` zimoun
2020-01-27 10:04 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-25 18:52 ` John Soo
2020-01-27 10:17 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 14:12 ` zimoun
2020-01-17 16:31 ` Pierre Neidhardt
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2020-01-17 16:41 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-19 20:30 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-15 11:43 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 11:44 ` Pierre Neidhardt
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