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Lack of isolation is an immediate problem. I was hopeful until we stumbled upon an util-linux test failure; whether it fails depends on what=E2=80=99s in the environment. So I think isolation is not superfluous, which is annoying because it means we pretty much have to address that before we can profit. Ludo=E2=80=99.