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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1616153973; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=RSii4dOHO1Pl/AiFKLHCqkN1OQYtnQw9qcHKZ090kHw=; b=EFj+opQN6Fd9TXewZhcaQq8SxuUCddv/HHa97p7rv9tk3ksj81yhLZI6bqVrklZhYzZ14+ 5gcY+yBegTeh2+flHe7MWa3jwqsyS1T2Jov7rzF5/Aysw1YLBmM8FwCEUvlz3LxJ+MwnS4 E4O/hdQafekcOJjk6LUapW7eLMVTCuP7nHSC/WyTxxY3/6w6p+pW5n7bnhyOUPZFUEQk2q wbk4JOnrXywh3ox7e0VqLvkz6PoKGAQ0T0ikomIfiEY3LXT5WRAzUX0wjJyAYNfnsRrLnP /y2+GL8e6gfnCkOIkHMZn1pCyg2d+Hhpd3NCQiSSSscFHpDVhaQrq/Ui5m/M+Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1616153973; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=APNhSx0Mdan5mCKvzg0jKMjp/8TEiTnLe1pU8Dajxakv7RkY2492xrTaCsz0BpDlDw2GeK Rqd6FBDyjyvrHZCwMoC17UmxASnbp+OPLp+Op8EsXDDwPiFGWCr0B3eVlTm4w40TcK++AW UcjZcHKYb29UszMMc3AnTWqCV0k2LYCTMvlBxyC4oY+aeYOOLU/+0O6U7Vf3esaucZyZKO VjdhbXG8ClP7DQTaWdJXhvUPvoZfqqQjLHz4YFxvG+eOc1PGsd/hvms0crKIIRHW1dCZwb ccKREANvVBgcaRhWv1Hkdbm7J9tTIENvP4Ab3gqrc9wMiXmtBtKsR7gAKSjzww== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=airmail.cc header.s=mail header.b=VdeAIN5D; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.61 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=airmail.cc header.s=mail header.b=VdeAIN5D; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CB1C22B0EE X-Spam-Score: -2.61 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: QDiPTE3prrfM raingloom writes: > http://jehanne.io/2021/01/06/gcc_on_jehanne.html > > Should support more architectures than Hurd ;) > > Anyways, just throwing this out there, as I - and I imagine every > other contributor - have some more pressing projects. > > It probably wouldn't be able to run most packages and services without > some significant work but it could maybe still use Guix as a package > manager. I'm far from in the loop, but from a cursory glance I'd think that porting to Jehanne is significantly more involved than porting to the Hurd, considering that Hurd seems to provide more POSIX compatibility than Jehenne. > seL4 would be cool too. Didn't someone do some work on making hurd run on SEL4? Or am I misremembering