From: Giovanni Biscuolo <g@xelera.eu>
To: Jeremiah@pdp10.guru, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 19:54:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87muq428zw.fsf@roquette.mug.biscuolo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d0r322zy.fsf@ITSx01.pdp10.guru>
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Hi Jeremiah,
Jeremiah@pdp10.guru writes:
[...]
> and once I finally complete stage0; you would also have the blueprints
> for making the virtual machine in hardware,
so, if I don't get it wrong, every skilled engineer will be able to
build an "almost analogic" (zero bit of software preloaded) computing
machine ad use stage0/mes [1] as the "metre" [2] to calibrate all other
computing machines (thanks to reproducible builds)?
> hand toggle in the bits for the hex0-monitor
the first bit of code have to be "manually" introduced in the machine,
right?
for the lazyer like me, what about a punched card? :-)
> and have absolute proof that no trusting trust or Nexus
> Intruder Class attacks have occurred in the creation of the binaries.
I didn't know about Nexus Intruder attacks: could you please give me
some links to the relevant bibliography?
> Every issue anyone is willing to bring, I will publicly address until
> all bootstrap roots (even on arbitrary hardware) lead to the proof that
> these binaries are perfectly reproducible and that they only behave in
> the manner explicitly specified by the standards to which they
> conform.
so, having the scientific proof that binary conforms to source, there
will be noo need to trust (the untrastable)
thank you!
Ciao
Giovanni
[2] I still have not fully understood the relationship between stage0
and mes
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre
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Giovanni Biscuolo
Xelera IT Infrastructures
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-17 14:27 Preparing the reduced bootstrap tarballs Jeremiah
2018-11-17 23:14 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-19 18:54 ` Giovanni Biscuolo [this message]
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2018-11-21 3:36 Jeremiah
2018-11-20 0:26 jeremiah
2018-11-20 8:28 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-11-18 12:56 Jeremiah
2018-11-18 18:27 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-18 18:39 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-20 15:45 ` Timothy Sample
2018-11-21 20:32 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-26 18:49 ` Timothy Sample
2018-11-15 20:39 Jeremiah
2018-11-16 18:27 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-16 20:44 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-17 14:05 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-18 7:32 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-18 10:02 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-17 3:49 ` Mark H Weaver
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2018-11-15 9:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-15 15:44 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-11-16 18:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-11-16 20:52 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
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