From: Christopher Baines <mail@cbaines.net>
To: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Narinfo negative and transient error caching
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2021 22:27:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mtvhnsn6.fsf@cbaines.net> (raw)
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Hey,
This has been on my mind for a while, as I wonder what effect it has on
users fetching substitues.
The narinfo caching as I understand it works as follows:
Default success TTL => 36 hours
Negative TTL => 1 hour
Transient error TTL => 10 minutes
I'm ignoring the success TTL, I'm just interested in the negative and
transient error values. Negative means that when a server says it
doesn't have an output, that response will be cached for an
hour. Transient errors are for other HTTP response codes, like 504.
I had a look through the Git history, caching negative lookups has been
a thing for a while. Caching transient errors was added, but I couldn't
see why.
Personally I don't see a reason to keep either behaviours?
In an extreme case, the Guix Build Coordinator has to work hard to work
around this caching. Asking the guix-daemon if a substitute exists is
dangerous, as it literally costs an hour if that substitute isn't
available yet, but will be shortly (which happens all the time when
building a bunch of things). Currently it checks itself, and only
continues to ask the guix-daemon to fetch the item if it knows it to
exist. The transient error caching is also problematic, as that imposes
a 10 minute penalty if there's a server issue.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Chris
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next reply other threads:[~2021-03-05 22:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-05 22:27 Christopher Baines [this message]
2021-04-19 20:55 ` Narinfo negative and transient error caching Christopher Baines
2021-04-22 22:11 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-04-22 23:14 ` Christopher Baines
2021-05-11 13:09 ` bug#47897: [PATCH] substitutes: Don't cache negative lookups or transient errors Ludovic Courtès
2021-05-14 7:31 ` Christopher Baines
2021-05-16 21:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-04-22 22:14 ` Narinfo negative and transient error caching Ludovic Courtès
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