From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id QKCxE/kDoGAujQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 15 May 2021 19:25:13 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id oKkzD/kDoGCUYwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 15 May 2021 17:25:13 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1DFD2B1EB for ; Sat, 15 May 2021 19:25:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:44588 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lhy2J-0007pO-3J for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 15 May 2021 13:25:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45636) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lhy1w-0007ol-Oq for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2021 13:24:48 -0400 Received: from mira.cbaines.net ([212.71.252.8]:55670) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lhy1u-0005zM-PK; Sat, 15 May 2021 13:24:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2a02:8010:68c1:0:8ac0:b4c7:f5c8:7caa]) by mira.cbaines.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A303427BC78; Sat, 15 May 2021 18:24:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from capella (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9cd14730; Sat, 15 May 2021 17:24:43 +0000 (UTC) References: <878s4ye116.fsf@cbaines.net> <87czu6cn63.fsf@cbaines.net> <87h7j71rvb.fsf@cbaines.net> <87bl9cj6kr.fsf@gnu.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.15; emacs 27.1 From: Christopher Baines To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: Bringing substitutes from the Guix Build Coordinator to users In-reply-to: <87bl9cj6kr.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 18:24:41 +0100 Message-ID: <87mtsvdi5i.fsf@cbaines.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.71.252.8; envelope-from=mail@cbaines.net; helo=mira.cbaines.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1621099512; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=lFKoWVdVkHe9wuksaOvNFaomQfRczfz4i9SZq//jnfA=; b=TJmmi5Mw6HZ6uc/3+mg/ZX/e1UWCHIh4BZ0aZcixVLo3mWzGZaI7N7DIrmRf7SYgQO0dvJ CV47lNYq+GK+lHlygdEi7QBi7VZlfAaFmuJl/1x50GuOW0wMS9KDxlqJiWtOpSa1KZELWg WsKdmn67W0FOGoMaJgR7CxDo7L6VqCH+twkfdwXlLBXyspAp5zHRytKgdVxjz2ijH/TEK4 2S32wF/+bCzWRi3M858o0fw4yo1ILfQ2t9bOTNira5veHgQcrSOiledC8Xjt11P8qSS8Zy kxTDLGqxT5vaVh5f3vkBRjWPmNC7r5OBpa3hHmjDeXDfb69Tn3nOmR1XT9mdXA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1621099512; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=PXnjLKDl6WWWMT1Z67MhkF8zOKUkebAHpTo1j2dvV4arucw4qvsxxVjSvssL7kC20e3Ydg xWHbM4U8tNfqaqMbS10GEKgvM1yML2ZAVsM0qgRzEMMeyWQuEaR+glsZxUW/Re6QrKJNyn Ycmz7RUzpBHZk2ci0PIOS76NeImYJ8ajpnwfHj9zeQH19Xz5YdMg/feANJSajTX1wgR/T0 fZrxfXhp/Om6LrjR5LrVnrX5jK0dTFQr/zg3PGxDBqMgPV00/l01crGvCUZFSLVqhm9kQZ 4pWBXPicpBxEGfPHZztvrbKqIBmNvO0BpMq1IFGNgnNVHRMbljO/h32kVoYr4g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.55 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B1DFD2B1EB X-Spam-Score: -4.55 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: aveFJa9lD5JW --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > That all sounds like a plan! > > Christopher Baines skribis: > >> There's a few intertangled things, but the main question is, if bayfront >> can be a source of substitutes, what's the path to actually have that >> benefit users? > > One way it=E2=80=99ll benefit everyone is by feeding build/reproducibilit= y data > to the Data Service. > > Another way can be by advertising bayfront.guix.gnu.org to =E2=80=9Cinsid= ers=E2=80=9D > (that is, maybe we won=E2=80=99t put it in the manual, but we can suggest= this > option to people reading this list etc.) > > Thoughts? I guess my question was maybe too vague, I was thinking about getting substitutes served from bayfront to users, and the benefit coming from that. In my mind, this would ideally include users who want to enable substitutes, but don't know much more than that. I've started looking at the changes this would involve [1]. 1: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/48435 If there's effort put in to getting substitutes served from bayfront, why do you suggest not documenting how to get those substitutes in the manual? --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKlBAEBCgCPFiEEPonu50WOcg2XVOCyXiijOwuE9XcFAmCgA9lfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDNF ODlFRUU3NDU4RTcyMEQ5NzU0RTBCMjVFMjhBMzNCMEI4NEY1NzcRHG1haWxAY2Jh aW5lcy5uZXQACgkQXiijOwuE9XeS4Q//aDgpishTN1jqXLdc4yjFydEhjAz+Yi37 Zbf8JMQuU2FkR0c6UoKgukMuo8kl5/sCGZGwB6l1yudFsBuIMsXce+VU8fB3aK6k CHg/jhwZPpe7/Z2kjIAqwyKWZGnRaQtJp3/uKHiiAs41ihpWqXDRUwR9ljE+9M1P Z00Kc1mTBiluDK5kBqqFk4aJM3xH1R+HB15fcIu+XHBrkx82zOm/ZbsYLy9zMXKU ZjwKddmhZghRuA8YLyryXi71mJscLnGxjkDcsnnlegbmIavHX06CyRm/hSRe5pCt gubhqSG58U7KeYEhYYu1zPBISexDX4+k1es1uDJvPyU8E3biDgWEBlQIlG8ME3Rj di6/8hIctkUvb8FwfVjKtY/mgFig5iEye2pk89ak1mb9dZtFiLDedDGGYaJ7DIIe t+ziOKZC1FLJxGM+MJuv0M1hLNrNw1uD+qRmyKQ/F5c1+xUWGOMqKMoUTu697Q0H GT9a0rbPSj3PpYnLqg1gqSs5XUvJhcaF2dBVJgA+Fzm84ukwk5tpiXqu98i9RSQ3 1GTg1N2KzhTPqHbrBhZc37dVjBO4L5YfLWaPLVtktXagYLNeyLoz28wLLjuhIrZo gC5HbYCTSQTRiZ9dGVZxd5rv71jDPTbuCdAnTQNPrVarXhiHXljY1zipB4q5p5QT doFex3OWQ3w= =Xc+V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--