From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id ANU8OR4aU2G75wAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 15:35:26 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id UCmsNB4aU2E6RQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:35:26 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74B94331AD for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 15:35:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:41708 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVDGX-0002Za-Gp for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 09:35:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40278) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVCjA-000269-GM for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 09:00:56 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42620) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVCj9-0005sh-Ee; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 09:00:55 -0400 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=60496 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVCj3-0003wh-6V; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 09:00:54 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Attila Lendvai Subject: Re: guix environment --load vs. --file inconsistency References: <87czoz81cf.fsf@gnu.org> <878rzlwv7e.fsf@terpri.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 7 =?utf-8?Q?Vend=C3=A9miaire?= an 230 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 15:00:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Attila Lendvai's message of "Sat, 25 Sep 2021 10:05:58 +0000") Message-ID: <87mtnwam86.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Robin Templeton , guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1632836126; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=NZCXH1J7d4nYMShfTN48Hq7ZN9Lhwb8OA4MCtA2WWiQ=; b=NQzfZhGrO5NSPfGa8pDDkcw8/01/QOuzjXrLNmhdo6D4gJIKyWuru83bJxUm7oH9S2lco4 spsHqoYey9GIDazJ2Co1s/Of1TzbZFvWGM0N0x/YH45macixgmL6S0dUhT/Dcz+4JzHEl+ dsKISnZw9KJ4IDpKMuvTRPT0qRnM7P41Q0fw9sTCX9HQ13Lw6uBw9+xojPpD7Hq8hWxTGc 9f1D+kRglQgXhh+JCqaf5yMUm48ThdEMb9zspsuwV+wynASWvgGfiGKS4qa8+X4M5nygkr bcbV+4BXQfufFE0tb4GooyK2pf3tfJb9a3MuyUTC9820I36Q8SQTJhrM1vdwuA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1632836126; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ISrGSpjmiS/EZPuHTcN3MZyKlpjD3issBlBwMXX4FI9t3EzYKozAFxkzCJtkZsOdAJTVCj 7rVv9O5W0L8LdegikMgGmw0GMgP3ZmYo9xu6F+YUHd+E0toOuTXy0UO/J/+7xhYLz5nmru vcTpJS2EMyW4T1Ui/gc8s4a66zDuq6nSd5+bbH+PANrpmNT9OZZIijSFr+rcbJQ/Q03YfV mIO/1qH3TpsaQPympn++UvCNaF+TKxB+tKDAMgKCAFwnjlLQbnLfgf/7z+WRtT7ccyOc94 7Kcq8ciVk++WNobeTwk4MAN+gGkiTAtk+lFj2bkjpKLMw5K5EHpHZWhnrnAIGw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.50 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 74B94331AD X-Spam-Score: -3.50 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 9tNzhJW/Tjtd Hi Robin & Attila, Attila Lendvai skribis: > FWIW, i'm new to Guix, and it was enough to read the --help output to > understand how --file works, but i still don't know what manifests are > (even though i'm regularly using `guix package -m > /path/to/manifest.scm`, which i have copied from somewhere). > > i know where it's documented. what i'm talking about here is how to > optimize the results/time ratio of the project for newcomers; IOW, the > project's approachability. i just haven't gotten to reading up on > manifests, and yet i'm already getting things done. Alright, I hadn=E2=80=99t seen it from that perspective, but that makes a l= ot of sense. Thanks for your feedback, Ludo=E2=80=99. PS: hopefully contains enough about manifests to get you started.