From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id uPUIDdceb2F5wAAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 21:39:03 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id 8OWyCNceb2FoWQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 19:39:03 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC3AAB47A for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 21:39:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:59914 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcuwv-0000lB-QT for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 15:39:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57862) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcuwZ-0000kz-JK for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 15:38:39 -0400 Received: from dustycloud.org ([50.116.34.160]:38572) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcuwW-0004VM-Vs; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 15:38:38 -0400 Received: from twig (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dustycloud.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 369A226600; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 15:38:31 -0400 (EDT) References: <874k9if7am.fsf@inria.fr> <86ee8hfm1k.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfwx896z.fsf@inria.fr> <86k0i9drh5.fsf@gmail.com> <87mtn56mzg.fsf_-_@inria.fr> <87k0i8q0uv.fsf@elephly.net> User-agent: mu4e 1.6.6; emacs 27.2 From: Christine Lemmer-Webber To: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: Incentives for review Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 15:34:34 -0400 In-reply-to: <87k0i8q0uv.fsf@elephly.net> Message-ID: <87mtn4ajpl.fsf@dustycloud.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=50.116.34.160; envelope-from=cwebber@dustycloud.org; helo=dustycloud.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1634672343; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=JVBiCvsYMkS6MoJWseDneqXbwfpDwLNEVmlD7I2MpwE=; b=H7Zis84TJyrtOq53Uxp96ZsDMeYQvetbpL/qyaxP9YteSXD7c/5Mu5De4VCAUj5iMbKFca MqwLPgLz54XV4OzKrMXKcMvA/QFwMDsw+sie+NzZculnZJellgd2dsv2Wmif1jrfa/mHqn o7VFJLgmtk/IDVMJZIojzvBb/OU54qyvW3iP64Qq938U8PWpEOnBX7QnFZP3KYFVgykBRn J29cKHpHUuBM1JFFk6KwrzkParZ2Qgyuo/T4/CVbtob1w4+fTEL6M3Tyfbe75pnM9mdzDI iMXLr6h8r5k7QISyg6hQPWR7EDRic+7jpe8GygtOzJ6gRWKFfrVA7CoHD7Kvvw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1634672343; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=OyCGgh3lzljTxB+DSeSTJzZ2wCR7Co4TsEdO8UXp+LvhPQhMJpgkncGhfz2p+jr7nnejmv 40gnjueqKr7UF9mkQeaor3hbx0JoyP29tcP771JsByh4Ot2ZvPwEW2JFRe7ST3+zjSj/z8 lj3H3+tWll3qRYI+dcXlRVZAHu5TEbhP57KyI/ZV9fp3uOmat9dnW6MDN4Oea82S2Vvsph Z98CYbIAlpY6Bqjmcojpf5NlAL+BWamD4hsbDTiI3G8pLvSl7AXCuyYwd8DKi1Cc8jDKRq K9nCJGYEQQDhlEYJAKsFZc+JECrNyLtHA6YMPjgd0SQBeQZEXqvsdNyjT5P1LA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.43 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AC3AAB47A X-Spam-Score: -2.43 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Qv0XnNXMCGGb Ricardo Wurmus writes: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > >> A good middle ground may be to provide incentives for review. How? >> I=E2=80=99m >> not sure exactly, but first by making it clear that review is makes >> the >> project move forward and is invaluable. You once proposed having >> =E2=80=98Reviewed-By=E2=80=99 tags to acknowledge non-committer reviews,= and I think >> that would be one step in that direction. Perhaps there are other >> things we could do? > > I was thinking in the opposite direction: not incentives to recognize > reviewers but a closer relationship to the patch submitters, > i.e. =E2=80=9Cpatch buddies=E2=80=9D or mentorship. If I made myself off= icially > responsible for reviewing commits by Simon and all commits touching R > then I=E2=80=99m more likely to actually do the review for these patches. I think this sounds good. Maybe in conjunction with "guix days", etc? > Reviews done by people who are not committers could also be > acknowledged, of course, but applying the patch (sometimes=20 > manually because of conflicts) is still manual work that can feel like > a chore if the committer doesn=E2=80=99t feel a connection to the patch o= r the > person who submitted it.