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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel , Andrew Tropin Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1640159433; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=ti7OPRyLJFNEAInUdxZ1pcbTZaGCu9tiLhweSVnw9DM=; b=h4LATbqiZFgrebfRcD22XbAeonCk3GyEae2YhqP61g4U2057xlbnvgwNTI1A80F9V79hPP 7ugDwMyPlaG/1NklDBelp6aBQAIZuggwc8l4qfvv/ZzrqnUM5CpnteIUUeGJIoBwQy8aQY ZM5ljmuJLcw/xJfd3XXlgwS2X15MzGPoKG2L39KMmNzD1AE3E63oAxwmGomygsHzN9pNXu +bpVCI9z5jnwznKmmk6JzsJDEBDM6U66FskvHVbfiDefwX0YsSmH/IlpvuC+rFmeHBNTl2 nji8Ci8T5jvkrXPhPp1oaILdJIG9h1oUSa85FBNVRFZqGPDDncrBtGX9QX8AMg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1640159433; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=B3ipsxdEPUGJWSG0xK25nLQD/VBx1O763Nbro9V3LpywZFsHdbQqbzQoVNlXAreILsyTt6 0B4WmZejLALDLBPzQRc+BqX84vThp8mvOP6Y6TKTNLkIVP8CJMQwIQBqjbgmpC40gWBkEW Q/U6KF5/P0bMISN4fp4wGlWgyXvHETfevC/vTC2HmaaGu3DWj65ULnyKi3NX9OCMsndE2r o2hmDtgWw/Pgbz5gbKhSbZN4hvFBKxonGkz4SVIH6+fgvMwmj0gFMzk1otxc6Jep6qjK/a xgfMy4ne/ep4HU+0HowrN08ZuWZ4A2oSyCDft+hkquzNdAEnvtyL9Tzrf7jIKw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=yoctocell.xyz header.s=mail header.b=h5BNXvxU; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=yoctocell.xyz; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=yoctocell.xyz header.s=mail header.b=h5BNXvxU; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=yoctocell.xyz; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 387432A2E5 X-Spam-Score: -8.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: G4NnRiKfhfDR --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Am Montag, der 20. Dezember 2021, um 23:31 +012, schrieb Ludovic Court=C3= =A8s : > I think we need to come to a shared understanding of what the next steps > are. Once we have that, we can clarify the current status in the manual > and release announcement, and open issues so that anyone who=E2=80=99d li= ke to > contribute knows where to look at. Yeah, maybe we could create a bug report listing all the things that should be done/fixed before we start adding too many new home services? >> I think one of the problems is that there is not really any style guide >> for now to write services (I do have a WIP patch in my local tree that >> will document most of (gnu services configuration) though :-)). > > I see you=E2=80=99ve sent it in the meantime, neat! Andrew also sent a patch that provides some guidelines for how to write services[1], in case you haven=E2=80=99t seen it already. >> We also lack a way to properly test home services; we would need >> something similar to what Nix Home-manager has[1][2]. >> >> [1]: Nix code for configuring a program >> >> [2]: Expected content of the serialized configuration >> > > OK. Given that =E2=80=98define-configuration=E2=80=99 works at a =E2=80= =9Cmeta=E2=80=9D level, I wonder > if we could have tests that are less boring than this. What exactly do you mean by =E2=80=9Cmeta=E2=80=9D level? Do you have anyt= hing particular in mind regarding the tests? 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