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From: Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret.xyz>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>,
	Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>,
	GNU Guix maintainers <guix-maintainers@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Release v1.4?
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 10:59:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mted7zm4.fsf@jpoiret.xyz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87letyux19.fsf@gnu.org>

Hello,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>> * switching gdm-configuration-wayland? to #t, so that the OOB experience
>> with Wayland sessions is better.
>
> Perhaps I’m biased because I use Xorg, but I wonder how good a default
> that is?  To put it differently, what fraction of the user base uses
> Wayland?

I'm not sure, it does seem like a fraction of people use it on IRC but
then again it's more likely that Wayland users would talk about it, X
being the default.  If there are no outstanding bugs with Wayland Gnome
though, I think it'd be a better choice: no tearing in the default
configuration, and better designed.  GUI Toolkits seem to have adapted
pretty well, and we still have XWayland for the rest.  The most glaring
non-Wayland app would be Emacs, but emacs-next-pgtk is fully
Wayland-native.

For me the #1 reason though is onboarding experience: take a user of
another distro that uses their favorite Wayland compositor, and wants to
try out Guix.  They install it through the Guix installer, and don't
understand (yet) how to read the whole documentation and write their own
config file fully.  They add sway to their system packages, reconfigure,
but next reboot GDM doesn't show Sway in the available sessions; they then
decide it's not worth their time and go back to their old distro.  This
default change would make sure that it Just Works Out of The Box™ on
first install.

For the other deprecation changes, I agree, let's just wait a bit longer.

Best,
-- 
Josselin Poiret


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-16  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-01  8:35 Release v1.4? zimoun
2022-06-03 16:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-05 17:57   ` zimoun
2022-06-05 22:31     ` vidak
2022-06-06 15:39       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-06-06 21:17   ` Merging ‘staging’? Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-08 11:50     ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-08 21:24       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-10  7:57         ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-11  9:53           ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-11 10:49             ` Tom Fitzhenry
2022-06-12  3:58             ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-12 21:08               ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-13  7:03                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-14  4:01                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2022-06-14 10:32                   ` Release ? (was: Merging ‘staging’?) zimoun
2022-06-14 13:08                     ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-15  9:21                       ` Release ? Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-09 17:19     ` Merging ‘staging’? pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-06-09 17:41       ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-09 19:02         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-06-10  6:07           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-06-11  7:35           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-07-15 10:52       ` Rock64 segfaults (was: Merging ‘staging’?) Timotej Lazar
2022-06-12  4:54     ` Merging ‘staging’? Thiago Jung Bauermann
2022-06-12 21:06       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-10 15:47   ` Release v1.4? Josselin Poiret
2022-06-15  8:54     ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-15 16:51       ` Gábor Boskovits
2022-06-16  8:59       ` Josselin Poiret [this message]
2022-06-17 15:31         ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-17 15:37           ` Brian Cully via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2022-06-19  3:33             ` Further thoughts on Xorg "vs" Wayland etc -- was: " bokr
2022-06-19 18:16             ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-22 13:31             ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-28  9:02               ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-17 15:45           ` Josselin Poiret

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