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From: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@debian.org>
To: Matt <matt@excalamus.com>,
	"pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de>
Cc: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>,
	Christian Miller <christian.miller@dadoes.de>,
	guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>,
	Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret.xyz>
Subject: Re: doc: installation: fix ~root confusion (was Re: doc: Removing much of Binary Installation)
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 13:42:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87msr53jkh.fsf@contorta> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18e280dc65a.fb9272352515573.111358157668309553@excalamus.com>

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On 2024-03-10, matt@excalamus.com wrote:
> ---- On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 22:29:23 +0100  Vagrant Cascadian  wrote ---
>> As the one who packaged and maintains guix in Debian...
>
> Thank you for doing this work!
>
>> The guix-daemon should continue to work from the packaged version, although as guix develops more and more features; how long an old version can be expected to continue to work remains an open question.
>
> I was under the impression that Guix installed through a foreign package manager is able to update with 'guix pull'.  This is what the current documentation says,
>
> "If you’re running Debian or a derivative such as Ubuntu, you can instead install the package (it might be a version older than 0.0-git but you can update it afterwards by running ‘guix pull’):"
>
> Is this correct?  Does 'guix pull' update Guix when installed through a foreign package manager?

Yes, with the guix packages provided by Debian, generally I would
recommend doing "guix pull" to get current packages (a lot has changed
since guix 1.4!) ... but "guix pull" does not update the running
guix-daemon; that is not the responsibility of "guix pull".

There is also the classic issue of updating PATH and other environment
variables after the first "guix pull" but that is not unique to the
packages from Debian.

A newly pulled guix should continue to remain compatible with older
guix-daemon to some extent, but it may be missing new guix-daemon
features (and possibly security updates, though those are grounds for
getting it fixed in the package), and possibly someday may no longer be
compatible.

live well,
  vagrant

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-10 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-14 15:01 Feedback of the GNU Guix manual Christian Miller
2024-01-15 17:52 ` Matt
2024-01-15 22:05   ` Christian Miller
2024-01-18 19:44   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-01-19 21:01     ` Matt
2024-01-26 23:59       ` Matt
2024-02-18 12:35         ` Matt
2024-02-18 13:55         ` Josselin Poiret
2024-02-21 18:27           ` Matt
2024-02-21 17:20         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-02-21 18:36           ` Matt
2024-02-23  2:46             ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-02-23 18:37               ` Matt
2024-03-02 13:34                 ` Matt
2024-03-06 17:15                   ` doc: Removing much of Binary Installation (was: Feedback of the GNU Guix manual) pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-03-06 19:42                     ` Matt
2024-03-06 20:52                       ` doc: Removing much of Binary Installation Suhail Singh
2024-03-06 21:18                         ` Suhail Singh
2024-03-07 17:03                       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-03-10 11:09                         ` doc: installation: fix ~root confusion (was Re: doc: Removing much of Binary Installation) Matt
2024-03-10 20:42                           ` Vagrant Cascadian [this message]
2024-03-10 23:21                             ` Suhail Singh
2024-03-11  1:58                               ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-03-11  4:27                                 ` John Kehayias
2024-03-11 19:15                                   ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-03-11 15:54                           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-03-16 10:47                             ` Matt
2024-03-16 14:05                               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-03-17 17:34                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-03-06 21:29                     ` doc: Removing much of Binary Installation (was: Feedback of the GNU Guix manual) Vagrant Cascadian
2024-04-10 14:05 ` Fix grammar and markup (was " Matt
2024-04-11 12:59   ` Christian Miller
2024-04-12 14:41   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-12 19:18     ` Matt
2024-04-13 12:02       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-14  7:00       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-19 14:09         ` Creating a documentation team? Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-19 15:32           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-04-19 17:32           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-20  8:33           ` Matt
2024-05-01 20:34             ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-05-02  9:14               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-12 20:16   ` Fix grammar and markup (was Re: Feedback of the GNU Guix manual) Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-13  8:22     ` Matt
2024-04-13 11:26       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-14 14:50         ` Matt
2024-04-15 12:58           ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-15 18:39             ` Matt
2024-04-16  6:43               ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-18 17:15                 ` Matt
2024-04-19 20:56                   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-04-20  8:36                     ` Matt
2024-04-17 18:08               ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-04-22 18:25 ` [PATCH] Fix typo (Re: " Matt
2024-04-22 22:43   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-05-07 19:41 ` [PATCH] doc: Clarify need to update search paths on foreign distro (was " Matt
2024-05-07 20:41   ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-05-10  9:57     ` Matt
2024-05-11  8:14       ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)

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