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From: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Build system hacks for Guix do not belong in 'source'
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 00:10:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lhjb82hc.fsf@mango.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d24ndrr8.fsf@gnu.org>


Ludovic Courtès writes:

> Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:
>
>> I don't think we should be making these kinds of changes in 'snippets'.
>>
>> When I ask for the source code via "guix build -S <package>", I expect
>> freedom fixes and other bug fixes, and maybe even enhancements needed
>> for Guix that would also work fine on other systems (e.g. adding an
>> environment variable).
>>
>> However, the package 'source' should not include build system hacks that
>> are specific to Guix and would interfere with the package functionality
>> on other platforms, IMO.
>>
>> I think that both the 'ldconfig -> true' hack and the LIBDIR
>> substitution should be moved to a build phase for both of these
>> packages.
>>
>> Other opinions?
>
> I think one of the goals of ‘guix build -S’ is that you can take the
> source and build it *on GuixSD* with hopefully few additional
> modifications.
>
> From that perspective, the “hacks” are really fixes or workarounds
> (/sbin/ldconfig doesn’t exist on GuixSD.)
>
> Now, granted, there are inelegant workarounds that we’d rather hide;
> these two may well fall into this category, so I’m fine with moving them
> to a build phase.  Ricardo?

I was operating from the perspective that anything relying on "dynamic"
build information (like paths to inputs) must necessarily be implemented
in build phases, but that anything of a more static nature
(e.g. removing build time stamping, fixing Makefile problems, removing
bundled software) should be implemented with snippets.

I don't like the ldconfig hack myself (and I would be happy if we had a
replacement that would do the right thing in these cases without
requiring patching), so I'm okay with moving this into a build phase.
Expect updated patches.

It would be helpful to know where to draw the line, though, or if
there's a line at all.

~~ Ricardo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-05 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-21 20:54 [PATCH 1/2] gnu: Add zita-alsa-pcmi Ricardo Wurmus
2015-02-21 20:54 ` [PATCH 2/2] gnu: Add AlsaModularSynth Ricardo Wurmus
2015-02-21 21:09   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-02-22 20:54     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-02-25 14:00       ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-02-25 22:03         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-02-26 17:08           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-03-01 13:49             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-03-01 14:59               ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-03-02  6:14               ` Mark H Weaver
2015-03-04  7:08                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-03-04  7:14                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-03-04 11:09                     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-03-05 18:38                       ` RFC: Build system hacks for Guix do not belong in 'source' Mark H Weaver
2015-03-05 19:30                         ` Thompson, David
2015-03-05 22:05                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-03-05 23:10                           ` Ricardo Wurmus [this message]
2015-03-10  8:31                         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-03-10 16:23                           ` Mark H Weaver

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