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From: ng0 <ng0@we.make.ritual.n0.is>
To: Brendan Tildesley <brendan.tildesley@openmailbox.org>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnu: icecat: correct useragent to GNU GuixSD.
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 12:52:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lgyzlxwy.fsf@we.make.ritual.n0.is> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <993e9fdb-97b1-9238-8079-1f78bd553b0f@openmailbox.org>

Hi,

Brendan Tildesley <brendan.tildesley@openmailbox.org> writes:

> On 2016-09-10 19:18, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Attached simple patch fixes spreading of theh terribly ignoring lie that
>> I would be running Windows NT.
>>
>> I'm probably displayng unimaginable ignorance here but it's beyond me
>> why a project like Firefox would hardcode such a default.
>>
> The user agent is a string that is freely provided to websites when you
> connect. Changing the default user agent in Guix's Icecat to Guix means
> that all Guix Icecat users will suddenly be identifiable by this datum,
> and automated surveillance networks will pick this up, bulking our
> browsing behaviour with other instances of the same  user id, using that
> to serve up advertising to us on sites or whatever, I haven't really
> read much on this.
> This is the current Icecat user string followed by the user string of my
> version of Tor browser:
>
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0
>
> If we had Icecat 45 already, we would be helping Tor users be less
> trackable, but as you can see, just 4 characters are different, which is
> all that is needed to break anonymity. Perhaps there are still some
> people using Tor Browser 38 that we are assisting, but I suspect not
> many. I can't see how the version number would affect website behaviour
> realistically, so perhaps we could maintain our instance of Icecat
> patched with the latest Tor user agent instead, in order to assist Tor
> users? On the other hand it is kinda *bleh* to be advertising myself as
> a Windows user, skewing statistics, so It'd be nice to have a Linux,
> GNU/Linux, or Guix user agent, so that published OS usage statistics
> will display our mighty existence! User agents being changeable is
> meaningless unless there is at least one large cluster of users with
> some arbitrary string that can be chosen to hide with, so there may be
> greater value in keeping "Windows NT". I'm not sure, what do others think?
>
>

I agree and I am against applying this patch.
-- 
ng0
For non-prism friendly talk find me on http://www.psyced.org

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-10 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-10  9:18 [PATCH] gnu: icecat: correct useragent to GNU GuixSD Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2016-09-10 10:01 ` Vincent Legoll
2016-09-10 11:47 ` ng0
2016-09-10 12:39 ` Brendan Tildesley
2016-09-10 12:52   ` ng0 [this message]
2016-09-10 12:47 ` Alex Vong
2016-09-10 12:51 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-09-10 14:27   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen

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