From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Marius Bakke <mbakke@fastmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add systemd.
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2018 14:49:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lge7f5ws.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180401122259.9688-1-mbakke@fastmail.com> (Marius Bakke's message of "Sun, 1 Apr 2018 14:22:59 +0200")
Hello Marius,
Marius Bakke <mbakke@fastmail.com> skribis:
> As discussed at FOSDEM, it is clear that The Shepherd does not have what
> it takes to boot a modern Linux system. While it works today, adding
> bootloader, DNS server, NTP client, syslog, udev, seat management,
> dishwasher, hardware database, network management and other essential
> PID 1 features is going to take too much effort and duplicate work.
To be honest, while the Shepherd has been a fun hack, I’ve been more and
more feeling that yeah, it wouldn’t cut it in the long term (it’s also
become clearer Scheme as convenient as C when it comes to systems
programming and things like dealing with dependency graphs.)
Thanks a lot for taking this step!
> Meanwhile, GuixSD keeps drifting away from other distributions. This
> patch is the first of many in order to gain feature parity with the
> modern GNU/Linux world. 2018 is surely the year of the GuixSD desktop!
I hope so! Note that we’ll have to think about actual integration in
GuixSD. I suppose we could change services to generate unit files?
> + (add-before 'check 'disable-broken-tests
> + (lambda _
> + (delete-file "test-network") ;requires loopback
> + (delete-file "test-engine") ;requires cgroups
> + (delete-file "test-unit-name") ;likewise
> + (delete-file "test-unit-file") ;likewise
> + (delete-file "test-copy") ;FIXME
> + (delete-file "test-condition") ;requires containers
> + (delete-file "test-mount-util") ;requires /sys
> + (delete-file "test-exec-util") ;FIXME
> + (delete-file "test-xattr-util") ;FIXME
> + (delete-file "test-fs-util") ;requires /var/tmp
> + (delete-file "test-stat-util") ;FIXME
> + (delete-file "test-user-util") ;needs "root" user
> + (delete-file "test-path-lookup") ;expects systemd paths
> + (delete-file "test-namespace") ;requires containers
> + (delete-file "test-bpf") ;requires cgroups
> + (delete-file "test-fileio") ;FIXME
> + (delete-file "test-time-util") ;FIXME tzdata
> + (delete-file "test-date") ;likewise
> + (delete-file "test-calendarspec") ;likewise
> + (delete-file "test-cgroup-util") ;requires cgroup (duh)
> + (delete-file "test-strv") ;FIXME
> + (delete-file "test-path-util") ;FIXME /bin/sh
> + (delete-file "test-path") ;requires cgroup
> + (delete-file "test-sched-prio") ;requires cgroup
> + (delete-file "test-id128") ;FIXME
> + (delete-file "test-journal-flush") ;FIXME
> + (delete-file "test-bus-creds") ;requires cgroup
> + (delete-file "test-login") ;FIXME
> + (delete-file "test-dhcp-client") ;requires network
> + (delete-file "test-dhcp6-client") ;likewise
I wonder if we should be concerned about these test failures.
> + (inputs
> + `(("acl" ,acl)
> + ("audit" ,audit)
> + ("bash" ,bash)
> + ("bzip2" ,bzip2)
> + ("coreutils" ,coreutils)
> + ("cryptsetup" ,cryptsetup)
> + ("curl" ,curl)
> + ("dbus" ,dbus)
> + ;; TODO: Add gnu-efi for bootloader functionality.
> + ("elfutils" ,elfutils)
> + ("glib" ,glib)
> + ("glibc" ,glibc)
> + ("gnutls" ,gnutls)
> + ("kbd" ,kbd)
> + ("kmod" ,kmod)
> + ("libcap" ,libcap)
> + ("libgcrypt" ,libgcrypt)
> + ("libidn2" ,libidn2)
> + ("libmicrohttpd" ,libmicrohttpd)
> + ("libseccomp" ,libseccomp)
> + ("libxkbcommon" ,libxkbcommon)
> + ("linux-pam" ,linux-pam)
> + ("lz4" ,lz4)
> + ("pcre2" ,pcre2)
> + ("python" ,python)
> + ("qrencode" ,qrencode)
> + ("util-linux" ,util-linux)
> + ("xz" ,xz)
> + ("zlib" ,zlib)))
There seem to be relatively few dependencies here. Aren’t we missing
important features?
Also, did you make sure that the built-in HTTP server listens to 0.0.0.0
by default? That makes remote administration much more convenient.
Thank you!
Ludo’.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-01 12:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-01 12:22 [PATCH] gnu: Add systemd Marius Bakke
2018-04-01 12:49 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2018-04-01 17:01 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-04-01 20:07 ` Chris Marusich
2018-04-01 20:18 ` Marius Bakke
2018-04-02 21:36 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-04-03 22:33 ` Joshua Branson
2018-04-04 0:44 ` Leo Famulari
2018-04-04 8:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-04-06 18:57 ` Marius Bakke
2018-04-01 12:52 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-04-01 13:03 ` Martin Castillo
2018-04-01 14:04 ` Efraim Flashner
2018-04-01 14:19 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-04-01 20:11 ` Marius Bakke
2018-04-01 20:30 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-04-01 14:23 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-04-01 21:55 ` Björn Höfling
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