From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: Python 2 retirement =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=94?= what should Guix do? Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:15:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87lgbdjerr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20180616180118.GA9585@jasmine.lan> <87h8m25tuc.fsf@elephly.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56850) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUf1Q-0004fg-27 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 17:15:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fUf1P-0001xN-5b for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 17:15:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87h8m25tuc.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Sat, 16 Jun 2018 23:01:31 +0200") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ricardo Wurmus Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Hello, Ricardo Wurmus skribis: > I agree. My preference is to build Python 2 packages only when > absolutely needed by another package. =E2=80=9Cpython2-=E2=80=9D packages are mostly a convenience for users who= =E2=80=99d like to use them directly. For applications, =E2=80=98package-with-python2=E2=80=99 ta= kes care of =E2=80=9Cconverting=E2=80=9D complete DAGs to Python 2, so those =E2=80=9Cp= ython2-=E2=80=9D packages don=E2=80=99t matter much. It seems too early to get rid of everything Python=C2=A02, as Konrad suggested. Softening the policy to add =E2=80=9Cpython2-=E2=80=9D packages sounds like= a good way to move forward. For new packages, it=E2=80=99s quite simply: just don=E2= =80=99t provide the =E2=80=9Cpython2-=E2=80=9D variant unless it=E2=80=99s required= . For existing packages, it seems trickier though. Which packages would we remove and when? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.