From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pierre Neidhardt Subject: Re: Improving the README and new user experience Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 09:20:54 +0200 Message-ID: <87lgb9exex.fsf@gmail.com> References: <2BB0BF83-FB79-4D6D-AE22-9E8D6B095C75@riseup.net> <7320F0B8-73A2-4E35-ADDE-D5E0E1E7E69A@rdsor.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49249) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fVXQN-0007i3-Bv for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 03:21:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fVXQH-0006uv-Ob for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 03:21:02 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]:38115) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fVXQH-0006uj-HB for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 03:20:57 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id 69-v6so4774049wmf.3 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 00:20:57 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: <7320F0B8-73A2-4E35-ADDE-D5E0E1E7E69A@rdsor.ro> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Dan Partelly Cc: Guix-devel --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain I think this would be a great addition to Guix. I agree that for now Guix' learning curve is pretty steep. Even when coming from rather barebone / Do-It-Yourself distributions like Gentoo / Arch. I'm not quite sure yet how to improve the experience to new users. I'd need to install it several times, with other people and for different scenarios before I can be a better judge. I know some work is being done to add an installation helper program to the install image. Dan Partelly writes: >> Also the editors included in the image are crap because they lack two important features: 1) keeping track of the damn paranteses and 2) comment and uncomment region. > > Yes. nano is crap. vi has paren matching, but doest keep tack of them . Editing lispy code with tracking of parens is not a pleasure. Note that Guix also bundles Zile which is a tad better in my opinion. Emacs would be Awesome but that would make the live image much heavier. -- Pierre Neidhardt --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAlsqAFYACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH9vSwgApD+9HWSWUq5+kYVgCSU6WdXLIsLn0PNwwvEhGtYxlEq45Qmx8bNnBgpo 9RbLFnRM18XYg+dqSTJ2lmhEjTUA00f7I6ochgoq53KtfIFHtfPOqQQqP0VdgaQe 6T28ckH5lj/En6qkE2zeg50FnAIarJt8Hrzw710nLfbmNNPu4k88NtNQkjF/1+BW 27Yjw02fQ14CoebeoQPnLkm9agXzeAzFb6YrYkIJKMuTIN4iL4aSen6U+5sIYLYR c/a4KBosM5V0M+nCOSBHCS+YWnKRpIr7hVIRMLuL+yRauU1+Bmsa4s3j9EvdfuSh XYN9uMeqo3ZwVFNvqbjUKIoViydMhQ== =ZbFh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--