From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marius Bakke Subject: Re: Stop it. Formerly - Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines? Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 18:23:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87lg66p1b7.fsf@fastmail.com> References: <11169507.O9o76ZdvQC@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> <2337848.8Py3U4Hz1U@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> <87va5ii4o2.fsf@fsfe.org> <5212617.ijJ0i6tFDm@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> <20181031154153.q7b7gjkcup4ktwsw@thebird.nl> <20181031175112.GA29952@jasmine.lan> <87wopwuah2.fsf@gnu.org> <87muqsmdyu.fsf@netris.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50749) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gK5JK-0004bp-GG for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 12:38:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gK55J-0008Jj-Mf for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 12:24:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87muqsmdyu.fsf@netris.org> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Mark H Weaver , Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, HiPhish --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Mark H Weaver writes: > While I generally agree with the policies outlined in our CoC, and I > support the practice of enforcing those policies through our control > over our infrastructure and communications channels, I strongly oppose > requiring or presuming that all participants "agree" with our policies, > which I take to mean "declaring that they share the same opinions and > goals". > > Some participants may disagree with our policies, and that's okay. > We don't need their agreement to enforce our policies. > > Forcing people to declare their agreement with our policies as a > prerequisite for participation, or worse, _presuming_ that they agree > based on their having sent a patch or posted a message, is needlessly > alienating to those who don't share our views. Thank you Mark for succinctly pointing out these flaws in our current CoC. I agree that the language is overreaching, and think that these discussions will continue to crop up as long as this wording is included. Our usage of the Contributor Covenant have deterred at least three contributors. I hope it has attracted and retained more than that; in any case I think we can do better. Also thanks to Thorsten for filing . Getting this fixed upstream will benefit much more than the Guix project. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEu7At3yzq9qgNHeZDoqBt8qM6VPoFAlvhzhwACgkQoqBt8qM6 VPoAugf/VmkER4SydtOGE9EukdQ0+Y0S4gAMgyV1wryJN/sijSwKph4bKT4j9g5s 635ZJqSZXESl5U5Aa30PsdPg8eUtnml5AFgpQEWYbAtLsyYVUcARJhWXbaxbXAFD D7BqqCFMS9/bJ/0geu0syVFEcykVOM57agl8jf2c+UN5WlEbvUp6iVKpDx5ne/VT CFHqO8X67j6j4m9D1ljn1y3CD2K+/AuIUwmHSYUooNEZtoHWj7e5qWCiptuMU0Ig lOhGvV6ZpMRUJ3PIWUAA2WlT0ifSfpQSc90/QyUTySHMpVjgDEOgqrJb7yJcqFHF ccDO/iJr5NYRh7AqQngTVi6D3J+oTA== =DMlW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--