From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id GO5mC8e5AGBnYAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 21:38:15 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id GJI6B8e5AGCPUwAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 21:38:15 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8590940355 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 21:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:48288 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l0AJp-0000zZ-Th for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:38:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l0AJb-0000zL-5Q for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:38:00 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60357) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l0AJZ-0006pw-5f; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:37:57 -0500 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=52844 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l0AJY-0004ID-P5; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:37:56 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Andrius =?utf-8?Q?=C5=A0tikonas?= Subject: Re: [bootstrappable] Re: wip-full-source-bootstrap: from a 357-byte `hex0' to 'hello' References: <87im8cvdpa.fsf@gnu.org> <87im8amhb3.fsf@gnu.org> <4097605.XNSazgUCOe@laptop> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 25 =?utf-8?Q?Niv=C3=B4se?= an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 22:37:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4097605.XNSazgUCOe@laptop> ("Andrius =?utf-8?Q?=C5=A0tikonas?= =?utf-8?Q?=22's?= message of "Wed, 06 Jan 2021 11:46:54 +0000") Message-ID: <87lfcv19os.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, bootstrappable@freelists.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.86 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E8590940355 X-Spam-Score: -2.86 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Kh5PKcZENqSw Hi! Andrius =C5=A0tikonas skribis: > I think that's what mes-m2 rewrite [1] (not to be confused with mes wip-m= 2 branch) > is trying to achieve. Oh I see. It=E2=80=99s still kinda confusing to have two Mes. Wouldn=E2= =80=99t it be nice to have just one? I understand the goals are not exactly the same, but is there some way to converge? (This is a naive question, you=E2=80=99= ve probably already thought about it, but anyways. :-)) > Outside of Guix we are working on bootstrap that does not depend on guile= driver > and is driven only by hex-0 seed (357 bytes) kaem-optional-seed (737 byte= s) and any POSIX > kernel. Nice! Ludo=E2=80=99.