From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 0CX1AL78emBFkwAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 17:20:30 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id wCxKN738emDsDAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 15:20:29 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AA89B39E for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 17:20:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:36898 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lXmkG-0001H5-NP for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 11:20:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46336) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lXmk4-0001Gx-FF for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 11:20:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34972) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lXmk3-0001jw-Sn; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 11:20:15 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=41612 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lXmk3-0006vO-84; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 11:20:15 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Christopher Baines Subject: Re: Security related tooling project References: <874kgn4plq.fsf@cbaines.net> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 28 Germinal an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 17:20:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <874kgn4plq.fsf@cbaines.net> (Christopher Baines's message of "Sat, 03 Apr 2021 11:41:37 +0100") Message-ID: <87lf9hszte.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1618672829; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=bEyrq+sRD+S65mhXUQhB+thWpHwhQ0zx36Y71g/vwOM=; b=Vo6O1J9xFAALgAoCInjG/IE+mATF6KAiPKVCFWMiZL611NsKvOEMZGS2V8FHqaToiy9Cj9 WzSCUWcC98CnTe69a0zQ1YedDqouMCHwF+lR4GfPE6IMHbBeIRkqQDPp3eeT8Bafwy+u7T KZ91mPWdg9/HWonDyv7oSqp46XWBpkVcVeLD3wmcZtxjAkpzphHMg5KKdFMylxNd/RX5R+ DyqlRrekIH+/i9LA6nufQt3GXpIh4tEzKeYE3xxlg4qi4l33VQcPPY6JKE24r+CNvWU3SY Sk+mVPvs+gRrmYGkZFyY2v6cSm2A9A6c0gAx80PHE2C19+XFuIfuSucBCu4Dfw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1618672829; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=AhXuW+cz3TTMjZJ59J9+3QH5ULIWV/kxtl5PJ25kd/m2UzeolHRofykO3sftBpak/QnxLh oeVt+hIGM15CkxYnaVmqFdSpjwCZnTbm8BbRQZderehJTJ+X9A5JH54fB8iBIz0NVm3OB8 v3Ld8gbbJCFB8YCBBJTYIXxxc9SR0isFvINwLSwRgNCqWTYG/kDCbQK49rTBRAv4N2ClhY 2xxAGg/UCvU2ZuqpuPmoQYO8S5Bh9bWWE3ZzhgCGO88v08bLc52pu9bRnirqYlLvNqVqfh b+pvSZsIy9GFmoo7DJTZ37dSPWlkCfdqjBsSfqwK78P9RbLMqxBasw+vYPdvig== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.44 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9AA89B39E X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: vOzy9LHJJO4K Hello Chris! Christopher Baines skribis: > In May last year (2020), I submitted an application to NLNet. The work I > set out wasn't something I was doing at the time, but something I hadn't > yet found time to work on, tooling specifically around security issues. > > The application got a bit lost, probably somewhat down to email issues > on my end. Anyway, things picked up again in February of this year > (2021), and this is now something I'm looking to do roughly over the > next 8 months. I=E2=80=99m late to the party, but I think this is excellent news! Well do= ne! > 1: https://git.cbaines.net/guix/tooling-to-improve-security-and-trust/abo= ut/ [...] > In terms of looking at security from a project perspective, I'm thinking > about these kinds of needs/questions: > > - What security issues affect this revision of Guix? (latest or otherwis= e) > > - How do Guix contributors find out about new security issues that > affect Guix revisions they're interested in? > > From the user perspective, I want to look at things like: > > - How do I find out what (if any) security issues affect the software > I'm currently running (through Guix)? > > - How can I get notified when a new security issue affects the software > I'm currently running (through Guix)? That sounds like a great plan! I see several =E2=80=9Cintermediate=E2=80=9D issues that would be super hel= pful for the overall project, such as better CPE matching as L=C3=A9o suggested and/or providing CPE suggestions: . I think the Data Service is in a great position to help out wrt. monitoring. I think it=E2=80=99d be nice to architect things in a way= that services enhance monitoring, but are not required for get proper monitoring. For instance, the proposed =E2=80=98guix health=E2=80=99=C2=B9= can be implemented without relying on intermediate services at all (it still needs to rely on the NIST server, of course, but we don=E2=80=99t need extra services.) Anyhow, it=E2=80=99s awesome to see you work in this area. Like Chris Maru= sich wrote, Guix is in a good position to address security issues, and you=E2=80= =99re obviously in a very good position to know what and how to improve the state of things in Guix, so all hail! Ludo=E2=80=99. =C2=B9 https://issues.guix.gnu.org/31442