From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0r.migadu.com with LMTPS id oOUoJIkcjWD9FwEALuJCtg (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 01 May 2021 11:16:57 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id 2BzcH4kcjWDYTgAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 01 May 2021 09:16:57 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46BBBE70B for ; Sat, 1 May 2021 11:16:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:35214 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lclk8-0002YX-CW for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 05:16:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46140) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcljN-0002XZ-3N for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 05:16:11 -0400 Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:49917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcljG-0004wH-QD; Sat, 01 May 2021 05:16:05 -0400 Received: from bababa (lfbn-idf2-1-1335-163.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.169.147.163]) (Authenticated sender: mail@ambrevar.xyz) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 89DA3240005; Sat, 1 May 2021 09:15:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt To: Pjotr Prins Subject: Re: A "cosmetic changes" commit that removes security fixes In-Reply-To: <20210430195656.zonnz7hm3mihrwti@thebird.nl> References: <8735vgkttf.fsf@netris.org> <475c152f2e4bf0b566324223f2f5e3598279b87f.camel@zaclys.net> <87eeext6h4.fsf@nckx> <87lf92h0ei.fsf@gnu.org> <878s518ghz.fsf@systemreboot.net> <87zgxhl0os.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20210429141423.qtji4lsuaox7wfdk@thebird.nl> <87fsz7isbv.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20210430195656.zonnz7hm3mihrwti@thebird.nl> Date: Sat, 01 May 2021 11:15:56 +0200 Message-ID: <87lf8ystkj.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.178.230; envelope-from=mail@ambrevar.xyz; helo=relay10.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD=0.499, PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD=1.999, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619860617; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=a/WB7uPs0EQHJuJQpeo254sk93Y36HYQNgDwXxCHRJM=; b=Z7A9c0fAOLO9oFlLvFq7BFu9F0mqBtnID14Bp6B1NxXKoHyUeKxUpg4A27g1alkNdOUL8s EdKODm7b1s3bns1sMxeK9CN6lvG7q3GU4sG7IfXCo5488GeKyIST+OroYKKGt5q1WzqHQt KPx6IL5jxFwtwoiqC3ndX9gAt23Xc4+h+fcS3M6P9w4SWptUeee6rW3AJHwqyG6axPynzu 3RdN5+Z5kWkhvNYuFSLKtyZNQu3bmbcVnJz8uhKkHeAQNYBqRPe11PXzwJMLVQfAJ5qneX YEBlPx/+ZG2HRXIJ5YqgTGi1q+UdKie5EDol10Ra/fbDQhHmB67qZvlUuqR3VQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619860617; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=arVuSiFFVrfsUtWOXwMZcgX7lQrptXWeGGAeWXF+0ZkBzkA992E7IgIHQuD7Kbe5DiZ/X2 cx94qZ/LnNYAxBXKoVDvDAEEDVdu/J1tIP0XnBwfvUoqsWugycOHsDvMc5HFOGnyHVZ71X 367Xwtgpn1amD+8l8dJljNPb13qqFwUwU5BNzbBRgg8gj72Zu/4XRqDHCrFco6Ir4+PpZS H5pLF+QXyc0R9YUo65wqmLrTF4NNM1RNP/h4j/cgMzA1/py7lCJy3hTvzLsXckW8ZFpbDI 4TrrSXkFRLEQHKwmm8s/1XA6IGHjTqk+hTFHgucMulm5Akc3Jo7M9JmXfgkBBA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.06 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 46BBBE70B X-Spam-Score: -2.06 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: qFfshWBTAUwf --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pjotr Prins writes: > Being a core committer is *not* a badge of honour. It does not give > special privileges beyond what is expected. But this may not be true. Quite a few people have expressed otherwise over the years. Maybe an issue is that much of the organizational structure of Guix is implicit. The roles are not well defined and as a result, they may reach beyond what is commonly understood. Some time ago, I was discussing the quetsion of implicit structure with Ludo, who sent me this essay: https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm I found it enlightening and quite relevant to the matter at hand. Even if in the end my concerns end up being unjustified, I find it good practice to always question the status quo: maybe something better could come out of it! :) Cheers! =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFGBAEBCAAwFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAmCNHEwSHG1haWxAYW1i cmV2YXIueHl6AAoJEJvc9Jeku8x/A4YIAIVofTSglFAmqWUSghco45U1FrYA8HsW V823IONlDie3+OCZ1jcgHJ3O5xGSfnCSOSrh+UkP9HRz0IA1XPOlqqo3pDL9XPgd XMNjVCbN1xLK/f4nmsITaqKsIJDzsZJM6dLaa2mWg4wbuI69kzuEepSnjWQEzxxg mYCRrQ2qReuV2HmfmKouUPzjjkaKQlxBiQCbTOuVM0Re4gc7DxO1tw/AQqTLVml9 F5HYLbo20ySZ1wgMHYxdeqKqy5ItzLMEzqS+iIQenpsPCOpUdru94f+QUhIKTF7b CpTSqsqD4gubJ3zYw+H9V44sM/6CSY13ftXBuo9Ylsl1FbN5XSuBaVI= =0Q1G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--