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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1649162454; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=xrxVmz6ckws9+JlgyP1lV0qKPmWMNiGzOdn4sB6Uisc=; b=I4g2wrr5j8o0SenV6/0t1NWLl1iZ9kljzmWpgSA+YB5DMk965w7Xb0+a4nx6/0vubX6aUH Z5qsgWF3bnYMa/nx4Q9cY0/argS8CbMx64XX5Sczvas5zgH6ZlSOw77D2+1Xfbip/6EBSW aRTgfCUpUCPtkWkSw5SCdoZmxhtvHcY6sLyrPlF3uu8oZLcfgpvqmubY9dDkv8ipv4LU+o HmM4UQ/Fp9qNb1gllXzfpc0uN2Uk64PY7WvbV7gFLuteeBvwgZHn88isOYEJN6UBwCq4v4 aHAi+IMnwiT2MW8BjrT0M9fSCbD0/D2mvu7n7Ao9e3xMFxzE9ZUcvt80Cqu2Jg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1649162454; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=qQMeleGA4fjjLzo4p18C2UGGAruVwB+OUZ6EY5tz1nHWAjQD5svhHvSKTzOCOHndnipCDs eLzhe8p/fYbXuk8dtRnAsOAAAVQuZMEoWlL44iED6/ttSZRR7x8bdRHPdmgo8EOnqoTmPO XodnmoS6As1CAO9kHeb4khXWf4vjDpEQqpDIytrMvX6I4N51v3U+38v8OQe764AwP35ZfI ktbgYvgVj7kA1mW0QF9FlFywhIA3SIQLBiXWD57GbaAWXO154uWPCQuh/77uIfBSvf0B00 dGriw38rCvIG35aql/6gYL6Ch1DV6bJT5/AQrckkVQT7Mvc8tbQo+eF7TjFf4w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=nWMKi4OD; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.27 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=nWMKi4OD; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0F0669927 X-Spam-Score: -5.27 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 0vE1bepZi3KQ Hi, "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 06:59:33PM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> You can test it on Guix System with: >>=20 >> guix time-machine --branch=3Dwip-shepherd-upgrade -- \ >> system reconfigure =E2=80=A6 > > On my 2010 Macbook Pro (with hard disk, not using SSD), boot time to > GDM got a few seconds slower/faster from 3:08--3:22 minutes to > 3:19--3:20 minutes. (Faster old boot times are a few days old; seems > to vary with temperature or phase of the moon or something. So it is > maybe not slower at all or maybe even 2 seconds faster.) OK. I don=E2=80=99t expect faster boot times on =E2=80=98%desktop-services= =E2=80=99 because those are unchanged: either they=E2=80=99re started =E2=80=9Cgreedily=E2=80= =9D early on (like elogind, network-manager, etc.), or they=E2=80=99re started lazily by dbus-daemon. There=E2=80=99s little room for boot time improvements here, AFAICS, but I= =E2=80=99d love to be proved wrong. Thanks for testing and reporting back! Ludo=E2=80=99.