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Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2023 21:08:12 +0200 In-reply-to: <8eb1be08-4c3a-bd30-46c7-4ed653c4bb12@autistici.org> Message-ID: <87ledotmqc.fsf@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.6; envelope-from=raingloom@riseup.net; helo=mx0.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2A4535962F X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.28 X-Spam-Score: -4.28 X-TUID: V18JDwbntkQd paul writes: > Hello Giovanni, > > I get that you really don't find the web based workflow to bring enough advantages to justify the migration, but first please consider the picture that > Katherine sent and that we are evaluating the adequateness of the email medium as a FOSS contribution management tool over email. > > If we lower the bar for contributions more people are gonna be invested in Guix and will have interest in becoming committer and reviewer. My > impression today is not that there aren't enough resources to cover reviews, the bottleneck is the total time that committers are able to dedicate to > reviewing (potentially re-reviewing if some other non-committer contributor has already done a first review) and actually commiting changes. > > I have many contributions opened more than a year ago where (sometimes also because of me obviously, we're all working after work here) the > interactions on the issue are separated by many weeks, sometimes even months. > > To ease that bottleneck we just need to give more time to committers or to increase the number of committers. All the automation and process changes > we evaluate should be focused on either one of this two goals. I don't have evidence that any web forge will help (maybe someone has?), but I wouldn't > throw it out of the window just because it does not ease the current review process. > > cheers > > giacomo To second this, I'd like to note for the record that on fedi at least 1-2 people told me that they chose Nix over Guix because they don't want to deal with the email based workflow. At least one of these people is a highly skilled programmer with decades of experience. While I mostly argued for Sourcehut, I think the pull-based alternatives should also be kept in mind.