From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andy Wingo Subject: Re: grammar usage Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 12:28:16 +0100 Message-ID: <87k27om9bj.fsf@igalia.com> References: <87fuivxukg.fsf@lassieur.org> <20170305145026.zgoayn46kvpz5ksy@abyayala> <20170307214959.16038114@scratchpost.org> <87r3284x8s.fsf@lassieur.org> <87h92t1qts.fsf@gnu.org> <20170316204527.lnkgc2vot4uqk633@abyayala> <20170317053620.GA16076@jocasta.intra> <20170317110804.fxe6s2dpiw4pvwu5@abyayala> <20170317102809.GA26719@jocasta.intra> <87o9x0mare.fsf@igalia.com> <20170317111236.GA27220@jocasta.intra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49762) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coq3Y-0000rE-C9 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 07:28:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coq3V-0001U5-8J for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 07:28:28 -0400 Received: from pb-sasl2.pobox.com ([64.147.108.67]:53711 helo=sasl.smtp.pobox.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1coq3V-0001To-16 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 07:28:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20170317111236.GA27220@jocasta.intra> (John Darrington's message of "Fri, 17 Mar 2017 12:12:36 +0100") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: John Darrington Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Hi, I agree that we need to drop this subject. This will be my last mail in this thread as well. On Fri 17 Mar 2017 12:12, John Darrington writes: > Sometime ago, due to a misunderstanding I received a series of emails > addressing me as Frau Darrington. I did not feel offended or insulted > at all, and I cannot imagine anyone would feel that way. I understand you feel this way, however to others the effect is important. To trans and non-binary people, being at the receiving end of a stream of misgenderings (intentional or not) is a constant irritation, reminding them that they are not welcome in that part of the world. We want Guix to be welcoming to everyone, so we should be attentive to hints about what pronoun people would like others to use when referring to them. > Why is it only advocacy of *my* opinion which is unwelcome whereas > that of others is perfectly acceptable? I feel that I am being > victimised here. To create a welcoming environment for more people and especially people who are marginalized, we must make some behaviors unwelcome. In this case, advocating this opinion of what is correct English contributes to the marginalization of trans and non-binary people, and for that reason I think it is appropriate for the Guix project to discourage this behavior in its spaces. Andy