From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: RISC-V port for GSoC? Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 19:42:09 +0100 Message-ID: <87k1vn727y.fsf@elephly.net> References: <87bmh4qrf5.fsf@abyayala.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87bmh3kbd9.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1vqv23v.fsf@abyayala.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87lgg3vb1y.fsf_-_@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47783) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ejr9T-000790-52 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Feb 2018 13:42:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ejr9S-0000To-8k for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Feb 2018 13:42:31 -0500 In-reply-to: <87lgg3vb1y.fsf_-_@gnu.org> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, ng0@n0.is Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > To give some context, the issue is about the RISC-V port item at > . > > I=E2=80=99m happy to help with Guix porting insight, but apart from that = I=E2=80=99m not > the most qualified person and I=E2=80=99d rather have someone else mentor= it, if > someone were to take this project. Any takers? > > Actually I=E2=80=99m unsure how good of a project it is for GSoC. GSoC i= s about > development, but this one is not so much development, as Ricardo wrote > in the context of Outreachy. It=E2=80=99s difficult to mentor a project like that; a consequence is that= it doesn=E2=80=99t really fit into the framework of GSoC, where mentors need t= o have some way of deciding if the student is still on track (and fail the student if necessary). For a project that is =E2=80=9Cfollow the instructions=E2=80=9D in the best= case and =E2=80=9Cwait for upstream to fix it=E2=80=9D in the worst case, I really d= on=E2=80=99t feel comfortable having this as a GSoC project. Problems encountered in the porting effort are unforeseeable and could be outside the student=E2=80=99s means to work around them =E2=80=94 what do we do then? Fail the student? = Pass them by default? It doesn=E2=80=99t really make sense to me to have a proj= ect that has big unknowns as dependencies. My opinion is to remove it from the list of GSoC ideas. > (RISC-V porting in itself does sound useful to me, just somewhat > unsuitable for GSoC.) Same here. -- Ricardo GPG: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC https://elephly.net