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* Packaging a free Firefox
@ 2018-05-02 21:06 Clément Lassieur
  2018-05-02 21:10 ` Clément Lassieur
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  0 siblings, 3 replies; 79+ messages in thread
From: Clément Lassieur @ 2018-05-02 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: guix-devel

Hi,

I find Icecat very buggy, even if I compare it to a home-made Firefox
package that inherits Icecat (and thus is very close to Icecat).  For
example I can't even pay with my credit card with icecat-52-guix,
whereas I can with firefox-home-52-guix.  (It looks like a javascript
issue.)  Also, lots of videos don't work, and it's difficult to know
whether it's because of technical issues or because of DRM.

This may discourage people from using GuixSD.

My understanding is that Icecat exists because of two reasons:
  1. a trademark/logo issue,
  2. the need to remove non-free code from Firefox.

But it does more:
  3. it only packages the stables versions of Firefox,
  4. it adds add-ons,
  5. it prevents the installation of non-free plugins,
  6. probably other things that I'm not aware of.

It seems to me that the trademark/logo issue and the non-free code
removal could be dealt with at the Guix packaging level.  It's probably
just a huge bunch of substitutes to do.  The package would be huge, but
at least we would have control on it.

That would remove a layer of complexity, and probably reduce bugs (that
come from that layer).  That would also allow us to have a recent
version of Firefox.

And it would be way better than everyone (I exaggerate a bit) having his
home-made non-maintened full-of-security-issues Firefox.

What do you think?
Clément

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2018-05-02 21:06 Packaging a free Firefox Clément Lassieur
2018-05-02 21:10 ` Clément Lassieur
2018-05-03  5:00   ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-03  5:06     ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-03  5:09     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-03 14:29       ` next browser (was: Packaging a free Firefox) Jack Hill
2018-05-03 14:35         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-03 20:23           ` Jack Hill
2018-05-04  3:36             ` Andy Patterson
2018-05-09 16:45               ` Pierre Neidhardt
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2018-05-10 14:04                     ` ajpatter
2018-05-10 14:36                       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-11  5:00                         ` Andy Patterson
2018-05-19 19:26                           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-24  9:53                             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-05-24 14:18                               ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-24 15:33                                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-05-24 16:44                                   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-05-24 20:37                                     ` Ricardo Wurmus
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2018-05-10 14:04                       ` ajpatter
2018-05-03  6:06 ` Packaging a free Firefox Chris Marusich
2018-05-03  9:53   ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-03 10:56     ` Mathieu Othacehe
2018-05-11 14:54     ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-03 17:59   ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-04 14:24     ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-04 16:07       ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-04 16:27       ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-05 12:26         ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-15  7:10       ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-15  8:57         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-15 10:13           ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-05-16 17:27             ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-15 16:35           ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-17 11:28             ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-03 19:07   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-03 20:45   ` Clément Lassieur
2018-05-12 13:28     ` Clément Lassieur
2018-05-05 22:06 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2018-05-06  1:24   ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-06  6:01     ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-06 13:58       ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-06 16:35         ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-05-06  9:48     ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-05-06 12:53       ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-16 15:44         ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-05-16 16:10           ` Tonton
2018-05-16 17:56             ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-05-17 11:34               ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-17 13:47                 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-17 15:10                   ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-05-17 15:29                     ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-17 17:57                       ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-05-18  4:14                         ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-21  4:58                           ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-21 20:07                             ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-22  4:18                               ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-22 19:05                                 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-07-31  1:51                               ` Pjotr Prins
2018-08-01  0:58                                 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-21 20:09                           ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-22  3:55                             ` Alex Vong
2018-05-18  5:19                 ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-18  4:25             ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-16 19:07           ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-05-16 19:54           ` Oleg Pykhalov
2018-05-16 20:50             ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-05-17  1:26           ` Mark H Weaver
2018-05-17  8:21             ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-05-17 11:36             ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2018-05-06 14:05       ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-06 15:32         ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-06 16:33         ` Hartmut Goebel
2018-05-07  0:36           ` Mike Gerwitz
2018-05-07  6:42             ` jah
2018-05-07 16:30           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-08  8:36             ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-08  0:06           ` Mark H Weaver
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