From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Benjamin Slade Subject: Re: Firefox 52's end of life, packaging Chromium Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 17:38:37 -0600 Message-ID: <87k1o777cy.fsf@jnanam.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54711) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvWWX-0005vR-Ox for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 19:38:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvWWT-0003y3-Q6 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 19:38:49 -0400 Received: from mail-it0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::230]:52774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvWWS-0003wC-Fv for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 19:38:45 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-x230.google.com with SMTP id h3-v6so4922145ita.2 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sindhu ([172.83.40.99]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y200-v6sm1608516itb.2.2018.08.30.16.38.39 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:38:39 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: guix-devel@gnu.org Speaking from a user-perspective, I would be very much in favour of having modern Firefox and Chromium (appropriately de-Googled as much as possible, of course) as actual Guix offerings. And while there are lots of objectionable things about the www in 2018, I don't think being a GNU follower is likely to strongly correlate with being anti-web (I suspect the opposite, if anything). On most of my machines I find what I really need are Emacs, LaTeX, a terminal, and the latest versions of Firefox and Chromium, as there are things which simply don't work otherwise (and having used IceCat 52 for a few weeks now on Guix, I'm also reminded of how horribly slow Firefox used to be). I've managed to jury-rig a mostly-working actual Firefox on my GuixSD machine, but only by installing Docker via Nix and figuring out how to build and run Firefox in a Docker container (non-trivial task, having never touched Docker before, and one that still doesn't work 100%). While this has been somewhat educational, I'd have rather spent the time further exploring Guix (trying to build new Guix packages &c.). Just my two bits as a user, =E2=80=94Ben -- Dr Benjamin Slade - Uni of Utah - Linguistics [linguistics.utah.edu] ( https://slade.jnanam.net . https://babbagefiles.xyz ) `(pgp_fp: ,(21BA 2AE1 28F6 DF36 110A 0E9C A320 BBE8 2B52 EE19)) '(sent by mu4e on Emacs running under GNU/Linux . https://gnu.org ) `(Choose Linux ,(Choose Freedom) . https://linux.com )