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From: Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 07/07: services: console-keymap: Deprecate.
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:04:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k1g0mki5.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r2adlr66.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Sun, 07 Apr 2019 18:24:17 +0200")

Ludovic Courtès (2019-04-07 18:24 +0200) wrote:

[...]
> As you found out, this is deprecated in favor of ‘keyboard-layout’,
> which has a couple of advantages: it’s uniform (the same config works
> for GRUB, Linux, and Xorg), and it’s installed from the initrd, so
> already effective when you type in your passphrase (see
> <https://issues.guix.info/issue/34929>).
>
> ‘keyboard-layout’ definitely works for what you describe, Mark (see the
> examples in the manual.)
>
> If you do fancy things with Linux-native keymap files, Alex, it’s
> probably not for you.  In that case you do need
> ‘console-keymap-service’.

The fancy thing I do is simply loading my own keymap file, like this:

  (console-keymap-service (local-file ".../my.map"))

If I understand correctly, ‘keyboard-layout’ does not allow me to do
this, right?

> However, I was thinking that we probably want to steer users towards the
> ‘keyboard-layout’ mechanism so they don’t experience the inconsistencies
> we had before.  That’s why I deprecated ‘console-keymap-service’.  I’d
> argue that keymap experts won’t have difficulties coming up with a
> ‘console-keymap-service’ if they need it.

Sure, it's not a problem for me to add ‘console-keymap-service’ to my
config, I was just surprised that some feature was removed
("deprecating" means "removing sooner or later", right?) without
replacing it with equivalent functionality (as I see it).

> WDYT?

Please do whatever seems appropriate to you.  I just think that keyboard
layouts for grub, tty and X server are completely unrelated settings,
and I don't like when such unrelated configurations are combined just to
become more "user-friendly".

-- 
Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-11 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20190405134511.7740.88403@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20190405134516.BD1962158A@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-04-06  1:45   ` 07/07: services: console-keymap: Deprecate Mark H Weaver
2019-04-06 19:51     ` Alex Kost
2019-04-07 16:24       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-11 19:04         ` Alex Kost [this message]
2019-04-12 21:01           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-04-12  2:00         ` Mark H Weaver
2019-04-12 21:09           ` Ludovic Courtès

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