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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.61 X-TUID: B02c9LCQQNIE --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Pierre, Pierre Neidhardt writes: > Indeed, if you build the Lucid version you get a much smaller Emacs. > We had discussed this some time ago. I saw that discussion last June but probably I missed something: have you already sent a patch to request emacs-lucid inclusion in master? Given the size "issue" of emacs-with-gtk and the emacs warning on the long standing Gtk+ bug: =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Warning: due to a long standing Gtk+ bug https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/221 Emacs might crash when run in daemon mode and the X11 connection is unexpec= tedly lost. Using an Emacs configured with --with-x-toolkit=3Dlucid does not have this = problem. =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- IMHO it's useful to have emacs-lucid in official Guix, with subsitutes available for end users (I'm not using emacs in daemon mode over X11 over SSH for fear of chrashes). Thanks a lot for your recipe! [...] P.S.: I also know there's the http://issues.guix.gnu.org/41732#7 "Implement a wrapper so users can build the Emacs packages using a version of their choosing" patch around, but it's for a different (expert) use case AFAIU =2D-=20 Giovanni Biscuolo Xelera IT Infrastructures --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEERcxjuFJYydVfNLI5030Op87MORIFAl9s108ACgkQ030Op87M ORK25w/+Mq/f034Cleo31ZYS5voIFgPGIFOutZsEZi3EUyFgXi8PNokkl8XHO5Nk 1wjBNKO2EwbN4Xtgbwr82CI3Tv38b9pC/nBe9WKb5dCznIwmI/lnR1Xc31Cjlzpb 6zCt1fIGUmxQbIn41AikagyM9xaNzkymatw44tOLDFX+vwu192Q2rDRuw32OCncd 15rDSl/p04atjpX9Z6qI+MPWcuF7es6LyFMiI98yA//A4qFzxC+BboeG8WKJzpl5 BapESYWNxVDpfjDwYRKM3WGQ8hy6XyIDtxOIu+KR2tPx3QRHqmRkHqqUPoLvHvw3 RRddRxzJ0abQWHOb92uZQBBiesWtwygz6Pebw8iGiSqurtvfTCqlFSW8GtGTd9aC FGLkYaf/idH2TzHfbI0t2Yj9HM4tTQcbZbc8KfDIfiMj9/Z/i3pO1BzatGE6Jqgi 3jX42IMau6ua95NicBeJubTF7bNEgLWAai6z7LBWxz2DaC9Dwkpvsfq7e7KK9jvH FzlvIo/OJF2Shob01wXxOKjoSQ/T7UyZxoDuCcm+cmabDre7ZvEAQSZzjj60XVhf XSrIW7cC21ZpD4c61ckMqI6s8E5WlZRlEB520UCX3RgIryc2T+92kCEl/RaiW9gY VFMCSRTcFU2kUQxQLjowiR9oN41UBQ+2jZWja6kmdtFm4dLRyyk= =RGqO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--