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References: <87zgz4cpib.fsf@gnu.org> <6d533331-87f7-414b-7422-276530798194@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 09:59:30 +0100 In-Reply-To: <6d533331-87f7-414b-7422-276530798194@gmx.de> (Michael Schierl's message of "Mon, 15 Mar 2021 20:50:07 +0100") Message-ID: <87k0q7scct.fsf@igalia.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.60.130.6; envelope-from=wingo@igalia.com; helo=fanzine.igalia.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, guile-user@gnu.org, bootstrappable@freelists.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1615885264; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=VcSFQnoKUsQMmsy8tITey4MXxw1nH7ZgRWtykSxVS5U=; b=sqYYixBMAe08FYEEGDg3O/adrm9mMs0/RPDqtYCwMu6vUYiCcut3Pp3jNdfAOihQGTDIhc kF4hREnnVVaA7EyqgB4rI+pZikNodlpUpY5FPlCXgsq8ZCsNbSL9fbV+wyHhvld5eKPewE 7cmNRnnp5ydPaQEtN99GJjyLUb/6PbNjaR+jayHQ8UKjN/b+VOEtVzSu36fV6LNWsV0z7v mCyrNl7eoxbl95gUADIL6bEiMsRUIdoM0S7eyEZQvpGafpc+cVWITDwnIqJAmwMXfFM271 0KRxFgawzSDOLv6EjwvO8GYu3PJ4vDdUDfodcZfE2DtJJDIIphhMs9aMQMrWhA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1615885264; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=t3wiR1cq7FhjU8NgM9ZrvfFIDtRaW1MEr5OI0InH1WldNJRSzuVjGcJ0R0KukyVFsxNXnj i5dlDLFgmkfEtwExxFKWrcRVpBKDHGCqsVD5s+3HWWYBhOMe9UZncjBhJMznbzuOOosHh2 WYYwb1BjlV6NAGHkObDi/ka+CxcyAXRzmsZbAjzuFpg+xXiS270jL63SbfHDT6jhgl9Tvf DFLXO7eCxSQx9thhwfazMRdm0tr4boPpy0qYjnwPCgsuhlKE7ttqg7P48MYUzetNmX/Obe NePZ5t9pxp+xCiyShgLwtyrD8P96sXaC/kbh5MhMgfQrd36mtu8lWTZidmDn9w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=igalia.com header.s=20170329 header.b=nrBbV4CE; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.40 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=igalia.com header.s=20170329 header.b=nrBbV4CE; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CE470E952 X-Spam-Score: -0.40 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: wiVf+hxp5Ont On Mon 15 Mar 2021 20:50, Michael Schierl writes: > Am 15.03.2021 um 18:09 schrieb Ludovic Court=C3=A8s: >> Woow, this is great news! I think it would be great towards importing >> it in Guile proper. >> >> To do that, I think we should first get Andy=E2=80=99s opinion on the ap= proach. > > I don't think upstream is very interested in having psyntax-pp.scm > bootstrappable. Why do you say that? :) > In Guile 3.0.3 they broke even the `make ice-9/psyntax-pp.scm.gen` > target, and did not repair it even in Guile 3.0.5, that's why I used > 3.0.2 for the bootstrap. Strange -- I used it many times over the past couple months without problems. But I see now from your patches what the issue was -- and omg how embarrassing, I must have a stale canonicalize.go file hanging around in the tree. Goes to show how important bootstrapping is! Andy