From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@fastmail.net>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Removal of Python 2?
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 17:26:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k0mkwqiy.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m18s32ul5c.fsf@fastmail.net> (Konrad Hinsen's message of "Tue, 22 Jun 2021 14:41:19 +0200")
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Hi,
Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@fastmail.net> skribis:
>> Python 2 is dead, dead, dead like the parrot and end-of-prolonged life
>> as of more than 1 1/2 years. Anyhow, there might still be quite some
>> software not ported to Python 3 after 10 years. So I'm afraid we need to
>> keep Python 2.
>
> At this time, more than 2500 packages still depend on Python 2, and
> that's not just Python libraries. The list includes packages such as
> TeXlive, LLVM, Rust, OpenJDK, Calibre, OCaml, qemu, etc.
>
> For many of these packages, Python 2 is used only as part of the build
> procedure. Which is run in a highly protective sandbox. So I don't think
> we need to worry much about having Python 2 in Guix. To discourage
> people from installing it by accident, we could make it a hidden
> package.
I agree.
What we could do is start removing ‘python2-’ packages, especially those
with a non-negligible maintenance cost (numpy, scipy, matplotlib, etc.).
We can move them to the Guix-Past channel if there’s interest.
The attached script lists unused ‘python2-’ leaf packages:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ guix repl -- unused-python2-packages.scm | wc -l
288
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Are these good candidates for removal?
Thoughts?
Ludo’.
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(use-modules (gnu packages)
(guix)
(guix graph)
(guix scripts graph))
(define all
(fold-packages cons '() #:select? (const #t)))
(with-store store
(let ((back-edges (run-with-store store
(node-back-edges %bag-node-type all))))
(define (unused-python2? package)
(and (string-prefix? "python2-" (package-name package))
(zero? (node-reachable-count (list package)
back-edges))))
(for-each (lambda (package)
(when (unused-python2? package)
(format #t "~a~%" (package-name package))))
all)))
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-23 15:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-08 14:27 Questions regarding Python packaging Tanguy Le Carrour
2020-11-08 17:05 ` Leo Famulari
2020-11-10 8:35 ` Tanguy Le Carrour
2020-11-08 20:43 ` Michael Rohleder
2020-11-10 8:30 ` Tanguy Le Carrour
2020-11-09 16:54 ` Hartmut Goebel
2020-11-10 8:47 ` Tanguy Le Carrour
2020-11-10 8:53 ` Hartmut Goebel
2021-01-05 10:25 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-01-06 15:32 ` Tanguy LE CARROUR
2021-01-22 8:38 ` Tanguy LE CARROUR
2021-01-23 12:34 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-01-24 13:30 ` Tanguy LE CARROUR
2021-01-24 20:54 ` Ryan Prior
2021-01-25 11:47 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-01-25 16:57 ` Ryan Prior
2021-02-05 10:40 ` Hartmut Goebel
2021-05-17 6:24 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-06-06 16:44 ` Tanguy LE CARROUR
2021-06-06 19:44 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-06-22 6:53 ` Removal of Python 2? Hartmut Goebel
2021-06-22 12:41 ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-06-23 15:26 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2021-06-23 15:34 ` zimoun
2021-06-23 18:32 ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-06-22 18:02 ` Ryan Prior
2021-06-25 6:37 ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-06-22 7:00 ` Questions regarding Python packaging Hartmut Goebel
2021-06-28 11:59 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-06-28 20:37 ` Hartmut Goebel
2021-06-29 7:20 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-07-06 12:16 ` [bug#46848] " Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-07-07 15:01 ` Hartmut Goebel
2021-01-26 7:21 ` Tanguy LE CARROUR
2021-01-27 3:43 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-01-06 15:37 ` Tanguy LE CARROUR
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