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Gomes writes: > Guix forces the execution of (exwm-config-default), unless the user has > a .exwm file. That forces a default config on EXWM users, which is > unpleasant for those (like me) that have been using it for a long time. > Notice that those users have their EXWM configuration where it belongs, > i.e. in their Emacs' init file. There's a subtle and important detail I missed, and I've only noticed it now. This returns --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- emacs -q --batch --eval '(progn (require (quote exwm)) (print (featurep (qu= ote exwm))))' --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- true, whereas --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- emacs -q --batch --eval '(print (featurep (quote exwm)))' --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- returns nil. But --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- emacs -q --batch --eval '(print (fboundp (quote exwm-enable)))' --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- returns t (as long as emacs-exwm is installed)! Therefore the claim that Guix forces a default EXWM config on the users isn't entirely true. I was led to think that way since, most likely, I didn't add (require 'exwm) in my Emacs init file. In result, EXWM's symbols were actually bound, but, due to the lack of the require statement, it was running with the non-desired default config. I apologise for my lack of attention. I'd say that this also qualifies as evidence that the present "magic" is a double-edge sword. -- Andr=C3=A9 A. Gomes "Free Thought, Free World"