From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id sFMaKDKkwWErEAEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 10:53:54 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id QILTIzKkwWHNMQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 09:53:54 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 622E62E469 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 10:53:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:43852 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzbqD-0002L4-Gq for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 04:53:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60050) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzbq2-0002Ko-Mm for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 04:53:42 -0500 Received: from [2a0c:e300::1] (port=53818 helo=hera.aquilenet.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzbq0-0004ig-Nw for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 04:53:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AD5567; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 10:53:36 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OliE-bYl_ZyT; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 10:53:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from ribbon (unknown [IPv6:2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8EE7E3FC; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 10:53:34 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Christopher Baines Subject: Redundancy for source code and Disarchive References: <874k79zs29.fsf@cbaines.net> <86r1adiiv4.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfutxstt.fsf@cbaines.net> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 1 =?utf-8?Q?Niv=C3=B4se?= an 230 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 10:53:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87sfutxstt.fsf@cbaines.net> (Christopher Baines's message of "Thu, 16 Dec 2021 00:20:51 +0000") Message-ID: <87k0fy8esi.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Rspamd-Server: hera X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 19AD5567 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.53 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FREEMAIL_ENVRCPT(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_MIXED_CHARSET(0.63)[subject]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,gnu.org] X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a0c:e300::1 (failed) Received-SPF: softfail client-ip=2a0c:e300::1; envelope-from=ludo@gnu.org; helo=hera.aquilenet.fr X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1640080434; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Bvo6mMDUd4j8+/CQX48gD6Mzhe5r3FAKNkQkp4hv43g=; b=lK9JZhqkLJ0sGGH6DAK56FJE2ta6EsO8EXWb7lxENrlV48W9A1InmSQiUAeOrIrzbhcDqv mywOoExfo2Jon//+QPFJ+09KAo0+2dXVhIBxVKMgCNbvmdCKTHdgq/qs0zWMagIOqA1xFa /WazUWx6xCLWjHTwCHLZ24W32eekigv3mX9RCSEVDAK1NR5+K2k31Lvp071bfZR02d/SRx 7hWfIk8HRvxbShv+Vmr2HTPPrk5vqV7FNkJCwH40Kj74uPQHwsn1a804uLMn4EtHgN2Nn2 ZXhoN5lvO9KMrpIz05t1eEa/ptnBfmuUSntJxfB4vZumwohtJtdlteavhUpe5A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1640080434; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=LDbPnlH4Plln/jnqxj3/PEt6SGcLOZvNLBOrDohuA0/YyEni0ypqM5uSNwjPiyP6m77U9P ChvqEupaAADfU/sIN19wB8dsPFJSvDi/BHl+5b3lm+qtEIsO3VvU+Wpqb+xLgOeEg+SkzN TIlfo4gwcaeOFrY/JMDR0BIHFwfA3SbgF/l2JqEYP91HnNdVJC5Zn2gUDMiuzdSuU1I/tg rCtyJTq0DEqzlYtD0LtQe35xZMXDlAtXilrLsd/C5Fcj6+0dhzLsV7foq17cCxJzhYFXvn nqEVTQaFIjCNHr9NICVuGCub5CzEqcRKqdm4A2Ahjdx8vGuSeAFJpbom58xMoQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.82 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 622E62E469 X-Spam-Score: -3.82 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: GcKbGRTx90ih Hello, Christopher Baines skribis: > zimoun writes: [...] >> Do you think that Bordeaux could run >> >> > > The Guix Build Coordinator just builds derivations. I haven't got it to > build a manifest before, but that's possible I guess. It=E2=80=99d be great. If you=E2=80=99re on-line today, I=E2=80=99d like t= o see how we can achieve that. (This manifest is not related to how Cuirass works; it=E2=80= =99s a way to make sure we keep source around and/or notice when it is unavailable.) > There is one issue though, bordeaux.guix.gnu.org doesn't provide content > addressed files in the same way guix publish does. That=E2=80=99s a problem I=E2=80=99d like to fix. We put a lot of effort i= n preserving source code through different means; it=E2=80=99d be ridiculous to be unabl= e to retrieve tarballs that *are* available on the project=E2=80=99s machines. Can we run =E2=80=98guix publish=E2=80=99 or bordeaux, possibly with additi= onal nginx routes? Let=E2=80=99s discuss the details on #guix. The last thing I=E2=80=99d like to discuss is Disarchive database replicati= on. The strategy I had imagined doesn=E2=80=99t work here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2021-10/msg00167.html One approach would be to periodically build =E2=80=98etc/disarchive-manifest.scm=E2=80=99 and to copy the result to per= sistent storage, as is done on berlin: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2021-10/msg00080.html Another one would be to rsync the whole directory from berlin. Thoughts? Ludo=E2=80=99.