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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Maxim Cournoyer Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1641223372; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=l1RmHPwF/NZ2BEmgE/sLw8wOlNRYZ9aeBPz7mUreRhw=; b=US6AY16zWMvbxglGKdJlgsAbSieFVQjBYcQ3CToNmRE7lNZgL26GxQuBWaDt9eAxJUoJSx REu55xTUe+bOlOP5GbMmCSk2Gwuh4VDKjacSEJgxQJVmDdrgsFbkooTFcksWswB0ks0lUl 2z06A4zy/u3lIQtDIMUFIZuFkA2vuEGZ5W+VTph9pOiVZDfWliNNrtwPMMirPPnYfTwUMv y78jJ/BGH+L4xCtkKN4On8GvGNsUZRnO5Zamd5Kpb2CAFBFXAv12eRv0YSm2hfhuh4lJnm 7hdzd2TXVLk+awmJh8zvrqrsDrW/phtTg+KAeD5mBO1QLmmogu4SYONvYT9/bw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1641223372; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=krSfZoh3JpIBMW5PHajNogNafKjA4Itg2bv8ZkMRqh5rwQeB61UttWroDOMiPxlpKHu/Sq l3h1vVA72PhPLku/09CPhx2tYEumUYeKihaorQq1+pQBW/FwZIT25vqvdPZERndm6ly3Zy ff4YJdx4vgBrRDIqcrfwTyRwDyhJ8VnpdUAZermqDjHZywPWdtzY1hw62t8raEACF74tN7 4LlRH0cvYw+Puna5k23tvlxXo0W7oe8F8ZfHz2qmfvta7z3VDq4yuhxvFcwL6pz3IUIeED KFLc5+IvA8aH70bG6fF4BNE+WFKoe6iOcq9GyIYejZi8yLr5SkWFP7hQMXLFiQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.39 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 32F273BA05 X-Spam-Score: -4.39 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Vh17jH6BiuuK Hi! =E2=9B=84 Ricardo Wurmus skribis: > Maxim Cournoyer writes: [...] >> We'd have to include every language/system of importance to that list >> (Python, Ruby, Emacs, LaTeX, Perl, etc.), no? > > No, only those where we already have the people who could form a team. > There is no need for any of this to be comprehensive. It just needs to > be an improvement over the status quo. +1 > FWIW, I=E2=80=99ll gladly make it official that I could be the person to = talk to > when it comes to =E2=80=9CR packaging=E2=80=9D. This is already the case= , but only > those people know it who don=E2=80=99t really need to know this. Yes, and=E2=80=A6 > Advertising this kind of information or recording it somewhere where our > tools could redirect incoming requests would be an improvement. =E2=80=A6 yes; see also =E2=80=9CThe Tyranny of Structurelessness=E2=80=9D.= All this looks fine to us insiders because we know the untold structure of group; to outsiders though, it makes it harder to join. It=E2=80=99s about making sp= ace for newcomers. > I do think it=E2=80=99s a lack of organization, yes. Today I=E2=80=99m n= o longer > following guix-commits, guix-patches, or bug-guix, and I=E2=80=99m overwh= elmed > by guix-devel and help-guix. Whenever something catches my attention > I=E2=80=99ll read a bit and maybe reply. But by far the best way to get = my > attention for a review is to ask on #guix or #guix-hpc or to > X-Debbugs-Cc (or Cc) me on emails. I suppose people could explicitly Cc: the team you=E2=80=99re on when they = need specific advice or review; that should already help. > Having some topic-specific streams I could tap into would allow me to be > a little more proactive. This brings a related but slightly different topic: how to let people filter incoming patches and bug reports in general. How does it even work on git*.com? Do they let you subscribe to issues/merge requests that match certain patterns or touch certain files? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.