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Thomas Schwinge skribis: > Thus my question: do we/I now just upgrade 'gnu-make' from 4.3 to 4.4, or > do we maintain 4.3 as default for the time being, and add a separate > 'gnu-make-4.4' for now -- and what kind of testing does such a change > need? Yes. In =E2=80=98master=E2=80=99 you would definitely define =E2=80=98gnu-= make-4.4=E2=80=99 since changing the default one would incur a world rebuild. In =E2=80=98core-updates=E2=80=99, where world rebuilds are allowed, we may= or may not default to 4.4, depending on the amount of breakage. BTW, for immediate use, you can also try: guix build make --with-source=3Dmirror://gnu/make/make-4.4.tar.gz with the understanding that source won=E2=80=99t be authenticated. Better would be to run: guix build make --with-latest=3Dmake =E2=80=A6 but there=E2=80=99s currently a bug preventing this: . =E2=80=98--with-source=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98--with-latest=E2=80=99 work wi= th all the tools: https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/html_node/Package-Transformation-Opt= ions.html HTH, Ludo=E2=80=99.