Re: question about license of unofficial translation of GPL as a sample text in dbacl (Re: notmuch users: how do you filter debbugs?)

[ng0 <ngillmann@runbox.com>]

John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au> writes:

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> The GPL itself is not Free (!)
>
> It's license is: 
>
>  "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies
>   of this license document, but changing it is not allowed."
>
> PLUS some extra permissions regarding translation which are 
> given at https://www.gnu.org/licenses/translations.html
>
> Note that these extra permissions come with a number of conditions,
> including:
>
>  "The translation is not hosted on a commercial site."
>
> So this means that if the package includes japanse.txt nobody can
> make a commercial version of our hydra repository.  I think this
> would be a restriction which we don't want to impose.  Hence, I 
> thing the decision to remove japanese.txt is correct.

Okay, I agree with this.
I don#t know how much is expected (from the test suite), but couldn't we
just delete the content and replace it with

# original sample text removed by Guix due to legal problems
こんにちは世界

or something like that, hopefully double checked by someone who actually
knows the language - for me it's been a 'todo' for years now :/

That would still enable the test to parse some text.

> J'
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 09:21:41AM +0000, ng0 wrote:
>      ng0 <ngillmann@runbox.com> writes:
>      
>      > Hi,
>      >
>      > "Patricia J. Hawkins" <phawkins@connact.com> writes:
>      >
>      >> I'm just getting started setting up to use notmuch (your message
>      >> attracted my attention to it!) but looks like the afew script is
>      >> designed to do this, as a companion processer ("initial tagging") for
>      >> notmuch.
>      >>
>      >> https://github.com/teythoon/afew
>      >
>      > I actually have that as a work in progress package, but I can no longer
>      > work on it.. if I really do have it, there might be further dependencies
>      > which are needed or a massive amount of tests which need to be patched.
>      > Are you interested in taking this over?
>      
>      I just checked out the repository and branch I had on this, I was
>      failing at the test suite of dbacl which is used by afew as a
>      dependency.
>      Fixing it after not looking at it for half a year is easy. It will be
>      even easier when this qestion can be solved:
>      
>      all sample texts have declared licenses, I delete "sample6.txt" (license
>      unknown, forwarded email) and "japanese.txt" (unofficial translation of
>      GPL). For japanese.txt I'm not sure which copyright form applies.. same
>      for this unclear document sample6, deleting was just to be on the safe
>      side.
>      
>      Let me quote myself:
>      
>      509    ;; The software is licensed as GPLv3 or later, but                     
>      510    ;; includes various sample texts in the doc dir:                       
>      511    ;; - sample1.txt, sample3 and sampe5.txt are in the public domain,     
>      512    ;;   by Mark Twain.                                                    
>      513    ;; - sample2.txt, sample4.txt are in the public domain, by Aristotle.  
>      514    ;; - sample6.txt is a forwarded email, copyright unknown.              
>      515    ;;   Guix does exclude sample6.txt.                                    
>      516    ;; - japanese.txt is a Japanese unoffical translation of the           
>      517    ;;   GNU General Public License, (c) by the Free Software Foundation.  
>      518    ;;   XXX: uncertain of license to apply. Left out for now.             
>      519    (license '(license:gpl-3 license:public-domain))))  
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