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If=20 > I'm > putting effort into this, it's because I think the community is=20 > missing > an opportunity to improve. I won't get anything from any of=20 > this. You, > on the other hand, seem to be interested in your selfish agenda. it=E2=80=99s frustrating to get the feeling to be misunderstood. But=20 please take a step back before judging others. =E2=80=9Cselfish agenda=E2= =80=9D=20 sounds a lot harsher than is warranted in this context. Some background: Guix implements a philosophy that could be=20 described as =E2=80=9Cmagic with escape hatches=E2=80=9D. We usually offer= neat=20 features and automation by *default*, but we also provide escape=20 hatches for those who don=E2=80=99t want the magic or have different=20 requirements. The expectation to have EXWM start right up after=20 selecting it as a window manager is justified, in my opinion. Do=20 we offer a sufficient escape hatch here? --=20 Ricardo