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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludovic.courtes@inria.fr>
Cc: Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Accuracy of importers?
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 21:29:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ilxfy6i4.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878ryd8we4.fsf@inria.fr> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Thu, 28 Oct 2021 09:02:27 +0200")

Hello,

Ludovic Courtès <ludovic.courtes@inria.fr> writes:

> My understanding is that most of them require manual intervention—i.e.,
> one has to tweak what ‘guix import’ produces, even if we ignore
> synopsis/description/license, to set the right inputs, etc.  If we were
> to estimate the fraction of imported packages for which manual changes
> are needed, what would it look like?
>
>    importer     fraction of imported packages needing changes
>
>    gnu          90% (doesn’t know about dependencies)
>    pypi         50% (some miss source distro, “sdist”; some have
>                      non-Python deps)
>    cpan         ?
>    hackage      ?
>    stackage     (Lars?)
>    egg          (Xinglu?)
>    elpa         (Nicolas?)

The elpa importer is accurate. Manual changes are often (I would say
around 75%) required for the description field, tho.

However, the generated source URI is not reliable (see bug #46849),
which means the importer is not practical. Using it means the imported
package will need to be updated quickly.

> Among those, which importers provide source that differs from what you’d
> get from upstream’s checkout or release tarballs?  My guess:
>
>    pypi (see LastPyMile paper)
>    elpa (gives hosted tarballs that can differ from upstream repo)

Indeed.

>    gem (similar to PyPI)
>    npm (ditto)
>
> What about licensing info: which ones provide accurate licensing info?
> My guess:
>
>    gnu
>    pypi
>    cpan
>    cran
>    elpa

Correct

Regards,
-- 
Nicolas Goaziou


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-29 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-28  7:02 Accuracy of importers? Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-28  8:17 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-10-28  8:54   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-28 10:06     ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-10-29 21:57   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-10-30 15:49     ` zimoun
2021-11-09 16:48       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-11-09 18:36         ` zimoun
2021-10-28  9:06 ` zimoun
2021-10-28  9:30   ` zimoun
2021-10-28 11:38 ` Julien Lepiller
2021-10-28 12:25 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2021-10-28 14:47 ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2021-10-29 19:29 ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2021-10-29 23:08   ` Carlo Zancanaro
2021-10-30 10:55 ` Xinglu Chen

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