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Xinglu Chen skribis: > On Wed, Dec 15 2021, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > >> Hi Andrew, >> >> One service I miss for Guix Home is =E2=80=98home-ssh-service-type=E2=80= =99, which is in >> the =E2=80=9Coriginal=E2=80=9D Guix Home. >> >> Could you contribute a patch adding it? (I could do it on your behalf, >> but it sounds more logical to let you handle it.) > > Being the original author, I will hopefully try to work on it soon. :-) Neat. :-) [...] >> Last, it=E2=80=99d be great to see the three of you (and more people!) b= ack in >> action regarding Guix Home. I understand that life sometimes gets in >> the way, but it seems that there=E2=80=99s been some confusion as to how= to go >> forward=E2=80=94e.g., =E2=80=94whic= h may partly >> explain why things stalled. If there are patches waiting for review, >> also don=E2=80=99t hesitate to ping! > > Yeah, apologies for not being very active in the last few months. No, no need to apologize. I think we need to come to a shared understanding of what the next steps are. Once we have that, we can clarify the current status in the manual and release announcement, and open issues so that anyone who=E2=80=99d like= to contribute knows where to look at. > I think one of the problems is that there is not really any style guide > for now to write services (I do have a WIP patch in my local tree that > will document most of (gnu services configuration) though :-)). I see you=E2=80=99ve sent it in the meantime, neat! > We also lack a way to properly test home services; we would need > something similar to what Nix Home-manager has[1][2]. > > [1]: Nix code for configuring a program > > [2]: Expected content of the serialized configuration > OK. Given that =E2=80=98define-configuration=E2=80=99 works at a =E2=80=9C= meta=E2=80=9D level, I wonder if we could have tests that are less boring than this. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.